In some aspects I do agree but we have checkpoint on sun 250's and the
performance difference is very noticable. However, the real issue I have is
the price point and service which is not good compared to the PIX. But I do
agree that the GUI is fine, if that is a big issue. Most folks that I work
with on the high end of things are not concerned with a GUI. If you want to
channel links on a sun box you have to purchase addition software. If you
want to use checkpoint in a high volume environment you have to spend a
great deal more in Harware. Dont get me wrong the checkpoint firewall is top
notch in what it does but there are just as good alternatives at a lower
price point. It really comes down to what you want to use it for. As for
80MB you say "CheckPoint can handle up to ~80Mb of throughput" but that has
nothing to do with hardware so spend the money on a PIX 525 with a Gig blade
and match that with the price of the Checkpoint software and a Hardware
device to support it at the same rate. And as you noted the service and
licensing is much to be desired, that is the real issue.
ML
"Jim Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> I've been watching this thread and I have kept quiet. The article listed
> below is obviously biased. CheckPoint has its issues but none of them are
> performance related. The only bad things I have to say about the product
is
> in relation to support, which doesn't exist, and licensing.
>
> CheckPoint is #1 in spite of themselves. CheckPoint can handle up to ~80Mb
> of throughput, if you need more then maybe you should look at some other
> solution, otherwise they are all on the same field in regards to speed.
They
> typical shop doesn't need more than 80Mb of throughput.
>
> The NT GUI is free, you must purchase the Motif GUI.
>
> Nobody, and I mean Nobody, beats their GUI interface. It is the same no
> matter what platform you are running on.
>
> The Nokia/CheckPoint appliance is the best of both worlds. It is a
> prehardened, highly tested OS on super performance hardware. You just drop
> and insert that baby and you are ready to go. We use NT and Nokia's IPSO,
> and if I could do it all over again we would only use Nokias.
>
> Their stock is strong despite the recent gut punch the technology sector
has
> encountered. They have a great product with terrible customer service.
This
> may come back to haunt them, but in the mean time they are the best in my
> opinion.
>
> I could argue/discuss each point in the link below, but I won't bore
anyone.
> If someone would like more details or a realistic view on CheckPoint
> capabilities you can contact me offline.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 10:54 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: PIX vs CheckPoint
>
>
> Not a bad article in here but just a little more. I have both the
> Checkpoint 4.1 and the Pix 525. I bought the 525's because I was tiered
of
> dealing with Checkpoint. CKP is terrible at customer support and
licensing,
> and I am not saying this from just my experience. I was in the classes
> recently and all the folks there expressed the same issues. Support is
> expensive and not so bad with Pix. Remember that with CKP you rely on the
> box and OS you run and that has been a performance problem for us. In
> addition you had better know how to harden the box with CKP. I guess my
> opinion is that a hardware device is almost always a better solution.
Dollar
> for Dollar the PIx is the better solution.
>
> Good Luck
> ML
> "Imran Obaidullah M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > Hi friends,
> >
> > I have few basic questions,
> >
> > 1. If I can implement NAT and Access policy on normal router which has 2
> > ethernet interfaces then how PIX improves the perfomance as an dedicated
> > Firewall(If Iam not implemeting VPN).
> >
> > 2 Which is the best firewall and more reliable. What are the perfomance
> > difference between the PIX and CheckPoint.
> >
> > Please send me the details
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > imran
> >
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