good point!
--- Chuck Larrieu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Not to mention that many radio stations have their
> own services, and don't
> go through broadcast.com
> 
> Not to mention that there are business based
> services that use broadcast.com
> as well. You take the bad with the good, so to
> speak.
> 
> I keep coming back to the issue of policy and policy
> enforcement. I don't
> believe it is possible to continue to rely upon
> manual configuration of
> access lists to enforce policy. If there is a severe
> issue, or a good
> business reason to limit internet access and usage,
> then I believe one
> should look into third party server based solutions
> such as web secure.
> There are other products as well, but for some
> reason web secure is the only
> one I can  remember.
> 
> These products have created and maintain policy
> lists, making it easier to
> block pornography, brokerage, radio stations, just
> about anything you can
> imagine. They also allow you to add your own
> criteria, so that if you have a
> researcher who truly does need to listen to the
> radio or monitor
> thestreet.com you can permit that one user to do so
> while blocking everyone
> else. ( handy for currying favor with the boss, I
> suppose )
> 
> What you are suggesting is essentially treating the
> symptom, and not the
> disease. In an ideal world, there would be a written
> acceptable use policy,
> signed by management, and incorporated into the
> employee handbook. Then the
> tech staff would initiate the appropriate fixes
> based upon that policy.
> 
> Everyone should also be aware that app developers,
> both good and evil, are
> now beginning to use protocol tunneling as a means
> of evading corporate site
> and port based policies. It won't be too long before
> everything comes across
> as port 80 traffic, and your port filtering will be
> useless.
> 
> Chuck
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> Kathy Miihalisko
> Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 9:34 AM
> To:   Kelly D Griffin; beth shriver;
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      RE: blocking broadcast.com ip addresses
> 
> P.S.--
> 
> Bear in mind that IP addresses are subject to
> change--if you filter out by
> IP alone, you could be chasing them down again next
> week--not to mention
> that broadcast.com is not the only service of its
> kind out there. You might
> find that nailing down the ports to block is more
> efficient.
> 
> Kathy "Katyusha" M.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Kathy Miihalisko
> Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 11:58 AM
> To: Kelly D Griffin; beth shriver;
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: blocking broadcast.com ip addresses
> 
> 
> Beth,
> 
> Put on your hacker hat and run a port scan first --
> there are many free ones
> for download -- try
> 
> http://members.home.com/ultraj/
> 
> or browse the Connectivity utilities @
> www.davecentral.com for another port
> scanner. Determine the ports used by this broadcast
> service and block them
> with an extended ACL.
> 
> Kathy "Katyusha" M.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Kelly D Griffin
> Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 9:09 AM
> To: beth shriver; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: blocking broadcast.com ip addresses
> 
> 
> The easiest way to block an ip address on your
> gateway router is to route to
> null (i.e. ip route 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.255
> Null).  You can also compile
> an access-list to block out a range of addresses
> (i.e. deny ip any
> 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.255).
> 
> It is up to you to decide which method is the best. 
> The ACL would be my
> preferred method.  Easier to maintain than static
> route statements.
> 
> Kelly D Griffin, CCNA
> Network Engineer
> Kg2 Network Design
> http://www.kg2.com
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "beth shriver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 7:33 AM
> Subject: blocking broadcast.com ip addresses
> 
> 
> > Can someone tell me how to block traffic from/to
> > broadcast.com ??? We have several people who like
> to
> > use their computer as a radio and its bogging us
> down!
> > Help,
> > Beth
> >
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