Well, it's interesting, but having recently completed the CCNP, I have to
say I would not let an average CCNA or some CCNPs set up a PIX or implement
VPNs if I didn't think they knew something about routing and remote access
issues.  Perhaps security is a niche market that can be adequately serviced
this way, but will anyone really get this 5 test certification (what is it
called - CCNA Security?).

Looking at the new CCNP-Security (5 ccnp and 4 security tests), I think I
would just go for the Security CCIE - fewer tests and probably a similar
study path.  Of course I haven't seen what the Security Lab will be like,
but I'll bet it's product-centric.

The missing component in all these security certifications is a good dose of
non-vendor-specific information security and network security foundations.
The intro chapter in MCNS is good but not near enough.

Anyone with a routing & switching certification - CCNA, CCNP, CCIE - knows
quite a bit about routing and switching in general, whoever's routers and
switches are involved.  The concepts have been covered.  The same can't be
said about the Cisco security certifications.  In fact, anyone who relies
primarily on the Cisco security certification process may or may not know
enough to provide a security solution that meet's a customer's needs.
Partial security solutions are not generally what customers are looking for.
Hopefully, part of the security certification process will include
mentioning that security policy, operating system security and other
security areas may need to be part of a coordinated security solution, but
are outside the scope of what Cisco security certification provides.

My $.02

Arthur Stewart CISSP, CCNP-Security(old), MCSE


Ole Drews Jensen wrote in message
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>Some of you might find this interesting:
>
>You can now take the Security Specialization if you're CCNA - you don't
need
>to be a CCNP.
>
>http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/special1/course.htm
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>Happy Studying,
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>Ole
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