<<< What do you consider a paper CCIE? >>>

Weak knowledge of commands & hardware (must always research topic).
Inability to trouble shoot effectively (must always research topic)
Always avoiding technical leadership roles
Other CCIE's generally don't include their opinion
& they have no history of staying @ any one job for more than say 6 or 8
months.

In general- these are the characteristics of a person who is over their head
(just like any of us have the potential to be).  Their are people who are
passing the CCIE lab on sheer "will" (I'm gonna pass if it's the last thing
I do) .  Ask any active black belt, obtaining that status is only cool for a
short period of time.  When you pass such a crucial mark (among your peers)
you have graduated to a point to be counted on & heard.  If the "journey" is
all you know & expected, then this kind of success is a scary thing (@ least
for a couple of years :-)

.02
Phil

PS- Please don't misunderstand me, I still admire those who have completed
the process...


----- Original Message -----
From: "Yonkerbonk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Circusnuts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Chris Supino"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Ravi N Varma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
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Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 5:40 AM
Subject: Re: Help me Urgent all CCIES please !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


> What do you consider a paper CCIE? I've known some
> not-so-impressive CCIEs, but I don't know of any I'd
> consider paper.
>
> Michael
>
> --- Circusnuts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > EEEKKK !!!  I'd have to agree...  I work with a
> > couple paper CCIE's
> >
> > Phil
> > CCNA Lot's of hands on- closing in on CCNP
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Chris Supino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Ravi N Varma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 4:39 PM
> > Subject: RE: Help me Urgent all CCIES please
> > !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> >
> > > Sounds like you may want to postpone that test, my
> > friend. I personally
> > > believe that one of the biggest problems with  our
> > industry is paper
> > certs.
> > > Do us all a favor and KNOW the material before you
> > pass the exam. Just my
> > > two cents.
> > >
> > > Christopher Supino
> > > CCNA, MCSE, CNA 5, ASE
> > > Senior Systems Engineer
> > > TransNet Corp.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > > Ravi N Varma
> > > Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 12:53 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Help me Urgent all CCIES please
> > !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi there ,
> > >
> > > I am having trouble getting answers for these
> > questions could you please
> > > help me planing to take exam day after
> > > please help me out
> > >
> > > 1.ip datagram contain which of the following
> > >   a,arp packet
> > >   b,bits
> > >   icmp messages
> > >   udp,tcp data
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2. difference between tacas & tacas+
> > >
> > > 3.in dlsw environment  when all route explorer
> > sent between dlsw peers how
> > > it will be sent
> > >  a directed broadcast
> > >  b explorer frame
> > > etc
> > > 4 in x.25 environment if frame error occurs  which
> > one will reset
> > connection
> > > There is diagram two routers separated by serial
> > link both ends one host
> > at
> > > each end
> > >
> > > A, Router or Host
> > >
> > > 5 same as above but protocol is HDLC in this
> > situation what will happen
> > > 6 what is result of sending a loop up signal to
> > csu/dsu?
> > > 7 what lane resolution protocol do
> > >   all nw protocols address to nsap
> > > ip address to nsap
> > > etc
> > >    8  nlsp & is-is link sate or distance vector
> > > 9 when bridge receive a frame how it will be
> > forwarded
> > >  to all ports or except disabled ports it will
> > forward to all ports
> > > 10 when tacas does not contain user account what
> > it wiil do
> > > 11 frames are unable to transmit from router
> > though serial link what
> > happen
> > >   output error
> > >  connection reset etc
> > > 12 characteristics of 4B/5B encoding in fddi
> > > 13 what is meant by tcp slow start
> > > 14 tacas+ has what advantages over tacas?
> > >
> > >  waitning for your reply
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > sun
> > >
> > >
> >
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