Kenny,

I am not so sure.  You must be talking about RFC 1149 instead.  I don't
believe token ring is mention in RFC 2549.  Token Ring is not stated in RFC
1149 but it does talk about Point to Point connection.  That would be the
case if you are not using a MAU in a Token Ring network.

:)
Albert

-----Original Message-----
From: Kenny Sallee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 4:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Token Ring


Haven't you heard of the new high speed 'token ring ethernet adaptor' as
defined in RFC 2549???? ;)

Kenny

"Albert Ip" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Token Ring and Ethernet does not operate on the same principles as
Ethernet.
> Ethernet uses Carrier Sense Multiple Access/ Collision Detection
(CSMA/CD).
> Token Ring uses token passing.  Ethernet will send the packet out and
detect
> if there is a collision.  Token Ring will not send out the information
> unless it can insert the information in a empty frame (token).  In an
> Ethernet network, if the information is not for that host, the host will
> discard the information.  In a Token Ring network, if the information is
not
> for that host, the host will past the frame onto the next host.  There is
> never a collision in a Token Ring network. That is why you must have a MAU
> in a Token Ring Network.
>
> In the physical level, the roll/crossover cable will not work because the
> interface does not operation at the same ohms.  I presume you used a
> DB15/RJ45 converter to connect to the router then use a roll cable to
> connect to the NIC.  You must use a media filter to connect to the router
to
> use the RJ45 connector on the NIC.
>
> There is alot more difference between Ethernet and Token Ring.  And
believe
> it or not, there is still alot of Token Ring out there.  Also, you will
have
> to know all this to pass the CCIE exams.
>
>
> Albert
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pierre-Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 5:11 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Token Ring
>
>
> Pierre-Alex,
>
> I am not 100% sure but I don't see why you can't roll the cable.  I have
> always had a mau involved but token ring operates on the same principles
as
> Ethernet as transmit and receive go.  I am starting to doubt myself.  Why
> don't you post to the ccie news group and see what the consensus is.
>
> Matthew
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pierre-Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 4:59 PM
> To: Matthew Herman
> Subject: RE: Free Token ring NIC cards
>
> No problem!
>
> Quick Question: can I connect a PC (with a token ring nic) directly to the
> router token ring interface or
> do I need a MASU even for one machine?
>
> Pierre-Alex
>
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