Late collisions can often be identified with a Sniffer. You'll see lots of 
packets that are longer than 64 bytes but have a CRC error and/or alignment 
error. Sometimes you can see another station's preamble blasting into the 
packet. At the end you'll see AA AA AA, etc.

In addition to an oversized topology or cable, late collisions can also be 
caused by malfunctioning hardware or a full-duplex/half-duplex mismatch 
(the most likely cause).

Good luck! Let us know what you find out. Thanks.

Priscilla



At 05:49 PM 2/22/01, Kevin Wigle wrote:
>Group,
>
>There are a few sniffer users on the list and I got a question.
>
>I'm using Net Xray, Sniffer Pro is available (but not installed yet).
>
>We have a problem of out of order packets and just recently I've noticed on
>the router console that we're getting late collisions.
>
>Now I always thought that late collisions were a product of a cable that is
>too long.  In this case however, it's fibre from the basement up to a lab to
>a foirl and then a patch cord length of 10BaseT from the foirl to the
>router.
>
>I'm looking at the sniffer output and I don't know what to look for to
>identify late collisions.  I don't even know if you can see them or the
>symptoms with a sniffer.
>
>Can anyone (even if you watch other lists.... :-)   )  comment if the
>sniffer is even a viable tool to troubleshoot this?
>
>I've been going at it with our ISP for some time now and I need some
>ammunition to get them to do something.
>
>Kevin Wigle
>
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