At 12:29 PM 2/26/01, Hinton Bandele-NBH281 wrote:
>personally, i am a problem solving thinker. i always look for improvement
>is a system. with that said, can you more clearly define your idea of how
>people think? can you teach someone to think from a problem solving
>perspective? thanks!
We're really getting off topic now, but the answer to your question is yes,
we can teach people to be problem solvers. What's being stressed in
education classes these days is project-based learning and "authentic
assessment," which measures how well students can do real-world tasks. No
more "sage on a stage" lectures or multiple-guess tests or memorizing
vocabulary.
If this topic interests you, I suggest you look at the Technology for All
Americans and Science for All Americans projects, partially funded by the
AAAS and NSF (as well as some international organizations; it's not just
relevant for Americans.)
The Technology for All Americans Web site is here:
http://www.iteawww.org/TAA/TAA.html
Priscilla
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Howard C. Berkowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 10:56 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: what is the average age of people in this stuff?
>
>
>Not quite sure how I fit into this model. I'm 52, but I was about 18
>when I first touched a computer, and 19 or 20 when I first did
>something that was recognizable as network-related (terminal-based
>timesharing).
>
>By 1970, I was doing early distributed computing (medical lab
>instrument computers to database computers), pre-SNA IBM networking
>from about '71, ARPANET and X.25 stuff in the early '70s, SNA when it
>came out in '74, etc. Guessing that I did UNIX-based IP routing
>starting in the early to mid 80's, and first touched a Cisco router
>running 9.0 in 1992(?).
>
>So, in some respects I fall into the "old" category. It's hardly,
>though, a problem of learning technology -- the more I know, the
>easier it is to incorporate new concepts. Learning is as much, or
>more, fun than it was when I was younger, because I've learned to
>make it as much play as work, and how to do it efficiently.
>
>In all fairness, with what I do in my various "day" and "night" jobs,
>it really isn't that important for me to memorize lots of the details
>of individual commands. People tend to want me to figure out product
>and solution designs, and/or how to learn, than to be hands-on.
>
>Understanding how people learn is important. My thinking about a
>personal CCIE has evolved over the years. At this point, I very
>consciously do not want to get a CCIE, because I can't be accused of
>violating an NDA that I never signed. Also, having a CCIE wouldn't
>particularly affect my compensation or my job prospects.
>
>To say that I can't teach someone what they need to know for a CCIE,
>however, would be to suggest that Don Shula, Joe Gibbs, etc., were
>ineffective NFL coaches because they weren't qualified to be starting
>football players while they were coaching.
>
>It's also comforting to work with Vint Cerf or Scott Bradner, and
>know that they are older and still playing!
>
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