I have resisted the temptation to get involved in this, but since it's already
being discussed some, I've got a question:

"Net Bum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I had a Cisco 2600 series on my side and I asked him what he had on
> his side.  He said (as if I wouldn't know :-), "A big router, it's a Cisco
> 12000 series."  Then I asked him, "Do you use any Juniper stuff?"  He said,
> "Yes, we use them in our core.  They are behind the 12000's."

This is not the first time I've heard this; major ISPs utilizing Juniper in
parts of their core, but always using Cisco at the edge.

About 6 months ago, I was down at one of Cisco's offices in Florida (Ft.
Lauderdale), for a 2 day BGP seminar.  I caught the guy who was giving the
seminar out in the hall afterward, and we were talking about a multitude of
topics, and Juniper came up.  He had mostly good things to say about them,
particularly about their speed (He was a relatively new employee at Cisco...  He
might not have drank the Kool-Aid yet).

One of the things he did criticize, however, was some kind of problem Juniper
had with their BGP4 implementation, and he specifically mentioned that Juniper
was making a dent at the core (understatement perhaps), but that they were
having a difficult time at the edge as a result of this BGP problem.

I regret, now, not pressing him for more detail, and as I haven't been doing
anything BGP related, I haven't really taken the time to research this.

Is anyone on the list familiar with a problem with Juniper's BGP implementation
when peering with other vendors?

Alan

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