Phil,
I agree with you wholeheartedly!!! (and I suspect so does Howard). A solid foundation
in the basic science/technology that goes into developing networks is more valuable in
the long run. Once you have that you can always build upon it. Community/junior
colleges tend to focus on providing the student with the education & skills for
specific
industry areas. Our networking degrees, while incorporating general technology
concepts, are usually directed at specific vendors.
For example, I just finished developing (he said proudly, patting himself on the back
:)
) an Associate of Applied Science, Internetworking Technologies degree program. Aside
from all the general studies courses, it requires completion of the Cisco Networking
Academy CCNA courses, Novell CNE courses, and electives from the MCSE curriculum and
our
telecommunications program.
As you can see, it is designed to give our students the skills (vendor specific) that
will most likely get them that first entry level networking position (perhaps the
hardest one to get). For the most part we teach practical application, not theory.
Tom Lisa, Instructor, CCNA, CCAI
Community College of Southern Nevada
Cisco Regional Networking Academy
Circusnuts wrote:
> I think the Networking subjects are more of a community college or junior
> college thing. If you are looking to invest time in a Bachelors or Master
> per say- I'd go with a mainline computer science & engineering degree (time
> & money). This way the technologies will revolve around the bulk of what
> you know (this probably does not pertain to older degrees), nothing will
> seem too far of the beaten path. Case in point- I have a friend who wants
> to follow the Cisco path, but has enrolled @ the local community college
> (Networking program). His studies cover transmission technologies (analog,
> digital, MM, SM), patch panels arrangements, horizontal runs, etc., etc.
> Basic stuff that one can pick up from 1 or a small handful of books.
>
> Second (a coworker) just graduated from the University of Maryland with a
> computer science degree. He immediately picked up all the Microsoft certs
> with little mental stretch & almost every Cisco project seems familiar to
> him. The other day I was setting up a switching scenario to enable a path
> for IDS boxes & he started having flashbacks about Spanning Tree.
> Evidently- in his course of study he had most of the algoryms covered. The
> application of what he's learned is now the fun part.
>
> Wrapping up- the network studies track (I feel) is too focused on the
> physical network & the real world teachers (that can evoke change) do not
> exist like they should. Computer Science is a neat place to start. The
> fellow I work with might be an exception, but his first job out of school
> pays 50k & he teaches Microsoft/ N+ 20 hours a week for another 50k (@ 23
> years old).
>
> Now- there is a third person to factor. My boss sold & repaired copiers in
> the 80's (when they were the hot commodity). He built Novel servers in the
> late 80's (when they were the hot commodity). He built Microsoft servers in
> the early & mid 90's (when they were the hot commodity). He started his
> Cisco studies in the late 90's (when it was the hot commodity). Today he is
> one of the most successful CCIE's I have ever met & though he has no formal
> education beyond high school, his network design trade allows him to bills
> out @ $200 an hour (with more business than he can handle).
>
> I say all this to say- pick you battles wisely & spend your education
> dollars as you see fit.
>
> All the best !!!
> Phil
>
> PS (no I'm not always this long winded, just home sick :-)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "steve billy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 11:22 AM
> Subject: computer networking degree
>
> > Hi group,
> >
> > Can you please tell me good universities from where
> > one can obtain degree at the undergraduate and
> > graduate level in computer networking (specifically).
> >
> > Thanks
> > Steve
> >
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