There is a difference as not both the source and destination port are the
same.

Lets say Station A wants to telnet to station B:

Source port A: >1024    Destination Port: 23 (telnet)

So to come back to your access-lists it DOES make a difference.


See this partial trace below:

Station A: 192.168.1.1  Station B: 192.168.1.22

In the trace you will see the 3-way handshake (Frame 1-3) and after that you
will see the Telnet negotiation starting




- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Frame
1 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
 Frame Status Source Address    Dest. Address      Size Rel. Time     Delta
Time    Abs. Time              Summary
     1 M      [192.168.1.1]     [192.168.1.22]       60 0:00:00.000
0.000.000     03/02/2001 08:48:19 AM TCP: D=23 S=2909 SYN SEQ=11781196 LEN=0
WIN=8192
DLC:  ----- DLC Header -----
      DLC:
      DLC:  Frame 1 arrived at  08:48:19.6300; frame size is 60 (003C hex)
bytes.
      DLC:  Destination = Station Cisco14A4BFA
      DLC:  Source      = Station NGC   0DD6BC
      DLC:  Ethertype   = 0800 (IP)
      DLC:
IP: ----- IP Header -----
      IP:
      IP: Version = 4, header length = 20 bytes
      IP: Type of service = 00
      IP:       000. ....   = routine
      IP:       ...0 .... = normal delay
      IP:       .... 0... = normal throughput
      IP:       .... .0.. = normal reliability
      IP:       .... ..0. = ECT bit - transport protocol will ignore the CE
bit
      IP:       .... ...0 = CE bit - no congestion
      IP: Total length    = 44 bytes
      IP: Identification  = 65107
      IP: Flags           = 4X
      IP:       .1.. .... = don't fragment
      IP:       ..0. .... = last fragment
      IP: Fragment offset = 0 bytes
      IP: Time to live    = 128 seconds/hops
      IP: Protocol        = 6 (TCP)
      IP: Header checksum = 7910 (correct)
      IP: Source address      = [192.168.1.1]
      IP: Destination address = [192.168.1.22]
      IP: No options
      IP:
TCP: ----- TCP header -----
      TCP:
      TCP: Source port             = 2909
      TCP: Destination port        = 23 (Telnet)
      TCP: Initial sequence number = 11781196
      TCP: Next expected Seq number= 11781197
      TCP: Data offset             = 24 bytes
      TCP: Flags                   = 02
      TCP:               ..0. .... = (No urgent pointer)
      TCP:               ...0 .... = (No acknowledgment)
      TCP:               .... 0... = (No push)
      TCP:               .... .0.. = (No reset)
      TCP:               .... ..1. = SYN
      TCP:               .... ...0 = (No FIN)
      TCP: Window                  = 8192
      TCP: Checksum                = 244B (correct)
      TCP:
      TCP: Options follow
      TCP: Maximum segment size = 1460
      TCP:

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Frame
2 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
 Frame Status Source Address    Dest. Address      Size Rel. Time     Delta
Time    Abs. Time              Summary
     2        [192.168.1.22]    [192.168.1.1]        60 0:00:00.008
0.008.408     03/02/2001 08:48:19 AM TCP: D=2909 S=23 SYN ACK=11781197
SEQ=1056999666 LEN=0 WIN=4128
DLC:  ----- DLC Header -----
      DLC:
      DLC:  Frame 2 arrived at  08:48:19.6384; frame size is 60 (003C hex)
bytes.
      DLC:  Destination = Station NGC   0DD6BC
      DLC:  Source      = Station Cisco14A4BFA
      DLC:  Ethertype   = 0800 (IP)
      DLC:
IP: ----- IP Header -----
      IP:
      IP: Version = 4, header length = 20 bytes
      IP: Type of service = 00
      IP:       000. ....   = routine
      IP:       ...0 .... = normal delay
      IP:       .... 0... = normal throughput
      IP:       .... .0.. = normal reliability
      IP:       .... ..0. = ECT bit - transport protocol will ignore the CE
bit
      IP:       .... ...0 = CE bit - no congestion
      IP: Total length    = 44 bytes
      IP: Identification  = 0
      IP: Flags           = 0X
      IP:       .0.. .... = may fragment
      IP:       ..0. .... = last fragment
      IP: Fragment offset = 0 bytes
      IP: Time to live    = 255 seconds/hops
      IP: Protocol        = 6 (TCP)
      IP: Header checksum = 3864 (correct)
      IP: Source address      = [192.168.1.22]
      IP: Destination address = [192.168.1.1]
      IP: No options
      IP:
TCP: ----- TCP header -----
      TCP:
      TCP: Source port             = 23 (Telnet)
      TCP: Destination port        = 2909
      TCP: Initial sequence number = 1056999666
      TCP: Next expected Seq number= 1056999667
      TCP: Acknowledgment number   = 11781197
      TCP: Data offset             = 24 bytes
      TCP: Flags                   = 12
      TCP:               ..0. .... = (No urgent pointer)
      TCP:               ...1 .... = Acknowledgment
      TCP:               .... 0... = (No push)
      TCP:               .... .0.. = (No reset)
      TCP:               .... ..1. = SYN
      TCP:               .... ...0 = (No FIN)
      TCP: Window                  = 4128
      TCP: Checksum                = 6C27 (correct)
      TCP:
      TCP: Options follow
      TCP: Maximum segment size = 1460
      TCP:

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Frame
3 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
 Frame Status Source Address    Dest. Address      Size Rel. Time     Delta
Time    Abs. Time              Summary
     3        [192.168.1.1]     [192.168.1.22]       60 0:00:00.009
0.000.762     03/02/2001 08:48:19 AM TCP: D=23 S=2909     ACK=1056999667
WIN=8760
DLC:  ----- DLC Header -----
      DLC:
      DLC:  Frame 3 arrived at  08:48:19.6391; frame size is 60 (003C hex)
bytes.
      DLC:  Destination = Station Cisco14A4BFA
      DLC:  Source      = Station NGC   0DD6BC
      DLC:  Ethertype   = 0800 (IP)
      DLC:
IP: ----- IP Header -----
      IP:
      IP: Version = 4, header length = 20 bytes
      IP: Type of service = 00
      IP:       000. ....   = routine
      IP:       ...0 .... = normal delay
      IP:       .... 0... = normal throughput
      IP:       .... .0.. = normal reliability
      IP:       .... ..0. = ECT bit - transport protocol will ignore the CE
bit
      IP:       .... ...0 = CE bit - no congestion
      IP: Total length    = 40 bytes
      IP: Identification  = 65363
      IP: Flags           = 4X
      IP:       .1.. .... = don't fragment
      IP:       ..0. .... = last fragment
      IP: Fragment offset = 0 bytes
      IP: Time to live    = 128 seconds/hops
      IP: Protocol        = 6 (TCP)
      IP: Header checksum = 7814 (correct)
      IP: Source address      = [192.168.1.1]
      IP: Destination address = [192.168.1.22]
      IP: No options
      IP:
TCP: ----- TCP header -----
      TCP:
      TCP: Source port             = 2909
      TCP: Destination port        = 23 (Telnet)
      TCP: Sequence number         = 11781197
      TCP: Next expected Seq number= 11781197
      TCP: Acknowledgment number   = 1056999667
      TCP: Data offset             = 20 bytes
      TCP: Flags                   = 10
      TCP:               ..0. .... = (No urgent pointer)
      TCP:               ...1 .... = Acknowledgment
      TCP:               .... 0... = (No push)
      TCP:               .... .0.. = (No reset)
      TCP:               .... ..0. = (No SYN)
      TCP:               .... ...0 = (No FIN)
      TCP: Window                  = 8760
      TCP: Checksum                = 71CC (correct)
      TCP: No TCP options
      TCP:

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Frame
4 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
 Frame Status Source Address    Dest. Address      Size Rel. Time     Delta
Time    Abs. Time              Summary
     4        [192.168.1.22]    [192.168.1.1]        66 0:00:00.014
0.005.557     03/02/2001 08:48:19 AM Telnet: R PORT=2909 IAC Will Echo
DLC:  ----- DLC Header -----
      DLC:
      DLC:  Frame 4 arrived at  08:48:19.6447; frame size is 66 (0042 hex)
bytes.
      DLC:  Destination = Station NGC   0DD6BC
      DLC:  Source      = Station Cisco14A4BFA
      DLC:  Ethertype   = 0800 (IP)
      DLC:
IP: ----- IP Header -----
      IP:
      IP: Version = 4, header length = 20 bytes
      IP: Type of service = C0
      IP:       110. ....   = internetwork control
      IP:       ...0 .... = normal delay
      IP:       .... 0... = normal throughput
      IP:       .... .0.. = normal reliability
      IP:       .... ..0. = ECT bit - transport protocol will ignore the CE
bit
      IP:       .... ...0 = CE bit - no congestion
      IP: Total length    = 52 bytes
      IP: Identification  = 1
      IP: Flags           = 0X
      IP:       .0.. .... = may fragment
      IP:       ..0. .... = last fragment
      IP: Fragment offset = 0 bytes
      IP: Time to live    = 255 seconds/hops
      IP: Protocol        = 6 (TCP)
      IP: Header checksum = 379B (correct)
      IP: Source address      = [192.168.1.22]
      IP: Destination address = [192.168.1.1]
      IP: No options
      IP:
TCP: ----- TCP header -----
      TCP:
      TCP: Source port             = 23 (Telnet)
      TCP: Destination port        = 2909
      TCP: Sequence number         = 1056999667
      TCP: Next expected Seq number= 1056999679
      TCP: Acknowledgment number   = 11781197
      TCP: Data offset             = 20 bytes
      TCP: Flags                   = 18
      TCP:               ..0. .... = (No urgent pointer)
      TCP:               ...1 .... = Acknowledgment
      TCP:               .... 1... = Push
      TCP:               .... .0.. = (No reset)
      TCP:               .... ..0. = (No SYN)
      TCP:               .... ...0 = (No FIN)
      TCP: Window                  = 4128
      TCP: Checksum                = 70B4 (correct)
      TCP: No TCP options
      TCP: [12 Bytes of data]
      TCP:
Telnet: ----- Telnet -----
      Telnet:
      Telnet: IAC Will Echo
      Telnet: IAC Will Suppress go-ahead
      Telnet: IAC Do Terminal-type
      Telnet: IAC Do Negotiate about window size
      Telnet:
      Telnet:

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Frame
5 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
 Frame Status Source Address    Dest. Address      Size Rel. Time     Delta
Time    Abs. Time              Summary
     5        [192.168.1.1]     [192.168.1.22]       60 0:00:00.016
0.002.113     03/02/2001 08:48:19 AM Telnet: C PORT=2909 IAC Do Suppress
go-ahead
DLC:  ----- DLC Header -----
      DLC:
      DLC:  Frame 5 arrived at  08:48:19.6468; frame size is 60 (003C hex)
bytes.
      DLC:  Destination = Station Cisco14A4BFA
      DLC:  Source      = Station NGC   0DD6BC
      DLC:  Ethertype   = 0800 (IP)
      DLC:
IP: ----- IP Header -----
      IP:
      IP: Version = 4, header length = 20 bytes
      IP: Type of service = 00
      IP:       000. ....   = routine
      IP:       ...0 .... = normal delay
      IP:       .... 0... = normal throughput
      IP:       .... .0.. = normal reliability
      IP:       .... ..0. = ECT bit - transport protocol will ignore the CE
bit
      IP:       .... ...0 = CE bit - no congestion
      IP: Total length    = 43 bytes
      IP: Identification  = 84
      IP: Flags           = 4X
      IP:       .1.. .... = don't fragment
      IP:       ..0. .... = last fragment
      IP: Fragment offset = 0 bytes
      IP: Time to live    = 128 seconds/hops
      IP: Protocol        = 6 (TCP)
      IP: Header checksum = 7711 (correct)
      IP: Source address      = [192.168.1.1]
      IP: Destination address = [192.168.1.22]
      IP: No options
      IP:
TCP: ----- TCP header -----
      TCP:
      TCP: Source port             = 2909
      TCP: Destination port        = 23 (Telnet)
      TCP: Sequence number         = 11781197
      TCP: Next expected Seq number= 11781200
      TCP: Acknowledgment number   = 1056999679
      TCP: Data offset             = 20 bytes
      TCP: Flags                   = 18
      TCP:               ..0. .... = (No urgent pointer)
      TCP:               ...1 .... = Acknowledgment
      TCP:               .... 1... = Push
      TCP:               .... .0.. = (No reset)
      TCP:               .... ..0. = (No SYN)
      TCP:               .... ...0 = (No FIN)
      TCP: Window                  = 8748
      TCP: Checksum                = 6EC3 (correct)
      TCP: No TCP options
      TCP: [3 Bytes of data]
      TCP:
Telnet: ----- Telnet -----
      Telnet:
      Telnet: IAC Do Suppress go-ahead
      Telnet:
      Telnet:

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Frame
6 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
 Frame Status Source Address    Dest. Address      Size Rel. Time     Delta
Time    Abs. Time              Summary
     6        [192.168.1.22]    [192.168.1.1]        96 0:00:00.028
0.011.298     03/02/2001 08:48:19 AM Telnet: R PORT=2909 <0D0A0D0A>User
Access Verification<0D0A0D0A>Pa...
DLC:  ----- DLC Header -----
      DLC:
      DLC:  Frame 6 arrived at  08:48:19.6581; frame size is 96 (0060 hex)
bytes.
      DLC:  Destination = Station NGC   0DD6BC
      DLC:  Source      = Station Cisco14A4BFA
      DLC:  Ethertype   = 0800 (IP)
      DLC:
IP: ----- IP Header -----
      IP:
      IP: Version = 4, header length = 20 bytes
      IP: Type of service = C0
      IP:       110. ....   = internetwork control
      IP:       ...0 .... = normal delay
      IP:       .... 0... = normal throughput
      IP:       .... .0.. = normal reliability
      IP:       .... ..0. = ECT bit - transport protocol will ignore the CE
bit
      IP:       .... ...0 = CE bit - no congestion
      IP: Total length    = 82 bytes
      IP: Identification  = 2
      IP: Flags           = 0X
      IP:       .0.. .... = may fragment
      IP:       ..0. .... = last fragment
      IP: Fragment offset = 0 bytes
      IP: Time to live    = 255 seconds/hops
      IP: Protocol        = 6 (TCP)
      IP: Header checksum = 377C (correct)
      IP: Source address      = [192.168.1.22]
      IP: Destination address = [192.168.1.1]
      IP: No options
      IP:
TCP: ----- TCP header -----
      TCP:
      TCP: Source port             = 23 (Telnet)
      TCP: Destination port        = 2909
      TCP: Sequence number         = 1056999679
      TCP: Next expected Seq number= 1056999721
      TCP: Acknowledgment number   = 11781200
      TCP: Data offset             = 20 bytes
      TCP: Flags                   = 18
      TCP:               ..0. .... = (No urgent pointer)
      TCP:               ...1 .... = Acknowledgment
      TCP:               .... 1... = Push
      TCP:               .... .0.. = (No reset)
      TCP:               .... ..0. = (No SYN)
      TCP:               .... ...0 = (No FIN)
      TCP: Window                  = 4125
      TCP: Checksum                = DA25 (correct)
      TCP: No TCP options
      TCP: [42 Bytes of data]
      TCP:
Telnet: ----- Telnet -----
      Telnet:
      Telnet: <0D0A0D0A>User Access Verification<0D0A0D0A>Password:
      Telnet:

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Frame
7 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
 Frame Status Source Address    Dest. Address      Size Rel. Time     Delta
Time    Abs. Time              Summary
     7        [192.168.1.1]     [192.168.1.22]       75 0:00:00.028
0.000.765     03/02/2001 08:48:19 AM Telnet: C PORT=2909 IAC Do Echo
DLC:  ----- DLC Header -----
      DLC:
      DLC:  Frame 7 arrived at  08:48:19.6589; frame size is 75 (004B hex)
bytes.
      DLC:  Destination = Station Cisco14A4BFA
      DLC:  Source      = Station NGC   0DD6BC
      DLC:  Ethertype   = 0800 (IP)
      DLC:
IP: ----- IP Header -----
      IP:
      IP: Version = 4, header length = 20 bytes
      IP: Type of service = 00
      IP:       000. ....   = routine
      IP:       ...0 .... = normal delay
      IP:       .... 0... = normal throughput
      IP:       .... .0.. = normal reliability
      IP:       .... ..0. = ECT bit - transport protocol will ignore the CE
bit
      IP:       .... ...0 = CE bit - no congestion
      IP: Total length    = 61 bytes
      IP: Identification  = 340
      IP: Flags           = 4X
      IP:       .1.. .... = don't fragment
      IP:       ..0. .... = last fragment
      IP: Fragment offset = 0 bytes
      IP: Time to live    = 128 seconds/hops
      IP: Protocol        = 6 (TCP)
      IP: Header checksum = 75FF (correct)
      IP: Source address      = [192.168.1.1]
      IP: Destination address = [192.168.1.22]
      IP: No options
      IP:
TCP: ----- TCP header -----
      TCP:
      TCP: Source port             = 2909
      TCP: Destination port        = 23 (Telnet)
      TCP: Sequence number         = 11781200
      TCP: Next expected Seq number= 11781221
      TCP: Acknowledgment number   = 1056999721
      TCP: Data offset             = 20 bytes
      TCP: Flags                   = 18
      TCP:               ..0. .... = (No urgent pointer)
      TCP:               ...1 .... = Acknowledgment
      TCP:               .... 1... = Push
      TCP:               .... .0.. = (No reset)
      TCP:               .... ..0. = (No SYN)
      TCP:               .... ...0 = (No FIN)
      TCP: Window                  = 8706
      TCP: Checksum                = 9A94 (correct)
      TCP: No TCP options
      TCP: [21 Bytes of data]
      TCP:
Telnet: ----- Telnet -----
      Telnet:
      Telnet: IAC Do Echo
      Telnet: IAC Do Suppress go-ahead
      Telnet: IAC Will Terminal-type
      Telnet: IAC Will Negotiate about window size
      Telnet: IAC SB ...
      Telnet:
      Telnet:



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
jeongwoo park
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 3:09 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Can anyone clarify the difference of these two?


hi all
Can anyone clarify the difference of these two?
access-list 101 permit tcp host 192.168.1.52 eq telnet any
access-list 101 permit tcp host 192.168.1.52 any eq telnet

--
jeongwoo


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