We're using the Arrowpoint CS 100 which is no longer around.  It's
smaller than the ones you're referring to but it is just a wonderful
device.  And I agree that these things are very easy to configure.  when
it was first given to me I had no idea what it was but we had it up and
running in no time.  I've never seen anything this powerful that is this
easy to configure.  It's spooky.  Those Arrowpoint engineers certainly
had their stuff together.  I hope Cisco doesn't screw them up too
badly!

John

>>> "Allen May"  4/16/01 9:57:16 AM >>>
CS-800 was the biggest box they had when I used it about 1 1/2 yrs ago
so no
I haven't used the 11500.  If it's anything like the 800 then I would
definitely recommend it.   The way it load balanced was awesome too. 
You
could choose between using round robin, sequential, or have it use a
formula
that based load on # of sessions, bandwidth, and overall utilization. 
That
was very kewl!  I haven't heard anything bad about the 11500.

If you have any good links on the LVS I'd love to see them just to play
with
it at home.

Later

Allen
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sean Young" 
To: ; 
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: Cisco ArrowPoint Intelligent Director and Linux Virtual
Server
[7:771]


> Allen,
> Thank you very much for the info.  I understand the the CSS-800 box
is
> rock-solid.  It is one of the big (ugly) box but very reliable in
terms
> of performance.  However, my company will go with the CSS-11500. 
Again,
> I don't know much about the product to make a recommendation. 
However,
> I have to admit that the box is very easy to install and configure.
>
> Anyone experiences with the CSS-11500, I love to hear from you.
>
> Regards,
> Sean
>
>
>
> >From: "Allen May" 
> >To: "Sean Young" , 
> >Subject: Re: Cisco ArrowPoint Intelligent Director and Linux
Virtual
Server
> >[7:771]
> >Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 10:35:44 -0500
> >
> >I used Arrowpoint CS-800 boxes (before Cisco bought them) and it
worked
> >flawlessly for carOrder.com.  As a matter of fact..it never exceeded
2%
> >utilization even when we were broadcast on 20/20 and a couple of
other
> >broadcasts that caused massive traffic.  I've never used LVS so I
can't
say
> >which is better but I can say that unless Cisco messed it up, the
> >Arrowpoint
> >load balancer was the best I had ever seen.  Make sure LVS can
handle
> >cookies and sticky sessions when comparing.  I know the Arrowpoint
can.
Oh
> >and I had never used an Arrowpoint before but it only took me a day
of
> >reading thru the manual and playing with it to realize how easy it
was.
> >It's noooooooooo problem.  You can basically go through the book
and
follow
> >the example (replacing IP addresses/subnets) and it works.  Then
for
adding
> >things like sticky sessions, etc, the manual was very useful in
showing
how
> >this is done and why.
> >
> >Hope this helps.
> >
> >Allen
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Sean Young" 
> >To: 
> >Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 10:17 AM
> >Subject: Cisco ArrowPoint Intelligent Director and Linux Virtual
Server
> >[7:771]
> >
> >
> > > My company is in the process of deciding whether to go with
Cisco
> >ArrowPoint
> > > Intelligent Director (ID) or building our own Linux Virtual
> > > Server (LVS).  From my limited knowledge, I know that Cisco ID is
a
> >load-
> > > balanced device and many advanced features.  I also have very
limited
> > > experiences with Cisco ID.  Furthermore, I also understand that
Cisco
> > > ArrowPoint is derived from VXworks (a Unix variant) and the
device
> >itself
> > > is running on a network appliance box (with 128 MB RAM and an
IDE
hard-
> > > drive).
> > >
> > > On the other hand, I have quite extensive experience with Linux
Virtual
> > > Server (LVS).  I know that LVS also support many similar
advanced
> > > features mentioned by Cisco ID (if I am wrong, please correct
me).  I
> > > have deployed LVS in production environment for the past 18
months and
> > > the LVS box is solid (never has to reboot once).  However,
management
> > > would like to go with Cisco because it has the name "cisco" on
the
box.
> > > They ask for my recommendations.  At the moment, I can NOT
recommend
> > > Cisco ID because I am not that familiar with the product.  Anyone
who
> > > has deployed Cisco ID on their production network with out
breaking
the
> > > network, I would love to hear from you.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Sean
> > >
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