Amen, Daniel.  I can't see blowing it all on one (or even two) routers when
you can make a really nice lab with that amount of money.  I guess it all
comes down to what your needs are.  If it's to have cool equipment you want
to use and be able to upgrade with different parts, the module routers fit
that bill.  If it's to get a practice lab to get your CCNP and then on to
the CCIE, I'd say go with Daniel's suggestion, or something like it based on
the 2500 fixed-port line.  I know it sucks to have to go with "non-cool" old
stuff, but it's the wiser choice for studying and cost, IMHO.

Regarding the 1600 vs. 1700, the 1600 line comes as a the original 1601-1604
set line, and the newer 1601-1605R line (run from flash).  The Flash is not
interchangeable between the non-R and R line (not sure on RAM).  The 1700
line is nice, and the processor is noticeably faster.  Of course, the 1700
is the lower "VPN" router (you can do it with even a 2500, but for
performance reasons the 1700 is the lowest recommended), and even has a
hardware accelerator VPN module.  Plus you get on VoIP slot on the 1750.
Note that Scott Dees is incorrect stating the 1750 has 3 WIC slots.  It has
2 WIC slots and one VWIC-only slot.

That said, I like having my own 1605R that my company paid for, and have
been trying to convince my boss I need a 1750 + ADSL WIC + ENET WIC + VWIC
2-FX0 so that I can be fully redundant with internet access at home (ENET
would go to a cable modem, hmm, and maybe even use the AUX as a backup
interface for my ADSL to SBC/PBI as I get a free dial-up account with ADSL).
FX0 would be so I could hook my home phone line into my own little AVVID
network at home (CallManager + Unity Voicemail + Unity ActiveFax, woohoo!).
Talk about the ultimate home office setup for telecommuting (and of course
I'd be VPNing into the company network to do least-cost-routing off their
PSTN and have access to VoIP internal phones).  Techno-lust, gotta love it.

--
Jason Roysdon, CCNP+Security/CCDP, MCSE, CNA, Network+, A+
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> I'll take a different tack on desireable routers. Rather than having one
> great router let me suggest several good routers. The 2500 series is
> reasonably priced in the used market. How about:
>
> 2523 2 Fast Serial, 8 Sync/Async Serial, 1 TR, 1 ISDN BRI S/T
> 2513 2 Fast Serial ,1 Ethernet, 1 Token Ring
> 2503 2 Fast Serial, 1 Ethernet, 1 ISDN BRI S/T
> 2509 2 Fast Serial, 1 Ethernet, 8 Async Serial
>
> Check out completed auctions on eBay to see how close this comes to your
> budget.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Aaron Vose [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 7:48 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Cisco XXXX series router? [7:1433]
> >
> >
> > Hey all, i haven't taken the CCDA test that i mentioned earlier yet,
> > but i did have a question for all the Gurus about a 1600 - 1700 - 2600
> > series router.  Here's the thing, from my summer job (i'm
> > 17), i'm going to
> > have about 3000$, and i really want to get a cisco router
> > both for my own
> > training, and for use at home.  I want to go with somthing
> > that's modular,
> > and not UNGODLY expensive, so that's why i'm leaning twords a
> > 16/1700 series
> > router.  But i would really like to get a 2600 series router,
> > because i know
> > one of the 2600 models can connect token ring and ethernet
> > networks.  That
> > would be nice, because i have set up a token ring netwrk at
> > 16Mbps just for
> > the hell of it, and it would be nice if i could actually use
> > it for somthing
> > :) Not only that, but it has more WIC slots, and it also has
> > a expandable
> > network slot.  This would also be nice...  The 8-analog modem card was
> > particularly attractive.. i could set my own mini ISP, if not
> > just use it
> > for myself as a backup line.  What would you all suggest?  I
> > know i'm buying
> > whatever i get used, but i still can't quite decide.  Heh,
> > not only that,
> > but the 2600 looks a hell of a lot cooler ;)  Does the 16/1700 series
> > support ISO release 12.x?  And what kind of processing speed
> > diffrence is
> > there?  RAM / FLASH limit diffrences?  I'm just a tad bit
> > lost about this
> > one.  Thanks guys!
> >
> > ~Aaron Vose
> > CCNA, A+
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