I would also add that there are many people with the CCIE who have done
intensive training courses and may have the qualification but not the
required experience. Those CCIE's who have a depth of experience will always
be in demand. After all the CCIE qualification is not easy to get, even with
the intensive training.
I find it difficult to understand where this is all coming from, is it the
technology stock shakeout or CISCO dumping staff???? I have seen this happen
a number of times in the last few years and technology always bounces back
(I'm not sure about the stock price levels). As far as I am concerned
getting the CCIE should not be regarded as a magic bullet to financial
bliss...if you are interested and committed to this profession then you will
do well no matter what.
I went to a number of business practice seminars for consultants when I was
running my own consulting business. They were very strong on the suggestion
that consultants (not just It consultants) must reinvent themselves every
two years. So I think everyone reading this should realize that,
particularly in IT, that with the rate of change as fast as it is we all
need to expect that we will need to re-evaluate our future at regular
intervals.
Cheers
Jim Gillen
Snr Communications Engineer
AUSTRAC
Ph: 9950 0842
Fax: 9950 0074
>>> "Jason J. Roysdon" 26/04/01 9:57:40 >>>
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I can't see the certification being devalued. Cisco is constantly making
the test harder by adding more and more relevant items and removing those
that are not. Plus, by forcing older CCIE's to keep current with the CCIE
Written is decertifying those that don't care and keeping the numbers from
growing too fast.
And, as you say, with the need for more and more folks at this caliber is
increasing, I don't think there will be any problem with the demand keeping
up with the increased supply. Not if the AVVID thing takes off for one (and
it is, at least for us). Our local county let their top PBX staff go and is
looking to implement VoIP (I don't know why they cut first and didn't get
the new system in place first, but government doesn't always make sense).
The question is, of course, who will win, 3Com, Nortel, or Cisco (our shop
actually does all 3, so we don't care so long as we win the bid, hehee).
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ccie_program/ccie_present.html
Just checking the current numbers, they're not up that high - 5595 Active
CCIEs (4992 as of 11/01/2000, up 137 since 4855 CCIEs as of 06/01/2000,
which was up 156 since 03/31/2000 at 4699). That's only 896 new CCIEs in
year. Granted, it sounds like a lot (~75/month), but compare that to the
MCSE numbers (which I'd love to see, especially with the new Win2k stuff
out). Especially if you figure probably a third, if not more are Cisco
employees ;-p
--
Jason Roysdon, CCNP+Security/CCDP, MCSE, CNA, Network+, A+
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> I was wondering what others thought about the CCIE. It seems to me now
that
> there are so many books and training materials geared towards the CCIE, it
> is making it easier to obtain the CCIE. With a steady diet of the right
> books ( which everyone seems to agree on) and hands on time with routers
and
> switches ( which to me is the only obstacle), it does not seem as
difficlut
> as it proclaimed (and I think most people see that).My opinion is the CCIE
> will be devalued considerably in the next few years (As far as salary is
> concerned as well as prestige) As others have pointed out, the CCIE
> population is growing at a faster rate (routing and switching), and even
> though the demand is high for the CCIE now, I think in 2 years there will
be
> a difference in the way the industry views CCIE's....
>
> .02 thats all
>
> Tennesee Stud
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