Kevin,
I checked the ICRC (Cisco Press Book) and all the Sybex series for (CCNP
1.0) and the CCDA (Cisco Press Book) They all note that the CCNA is required
for the CCDP. But they also do not cite any CCNA req. for CCDA. Despite
that, I still may be wrong -- which would be a rarity as I am a retired
attorney/law professor and we are never wrong. Once I thought I was wrong,
but I was mistaken!! (Corny -- and probably not true!)
As for your challenge re: my age -- I am certain that the FEderal Age
Discrimination Laws must apply on this list!!!! However, at 56 -- I
strongly suspect that my claim to being the oldest CCNP/DP will survive
(What I really would have enjoyed, however, is a claim that I was the
YOUNGEST such person -- but that passed me by during the American Civil War
or thereabouts!!!
I do think I am older than Howard B. -- and he does not have these certs.
Altho' the claim is a bit technical, and empty, as Howard, whom I've
personally met -- and whose books I've read -- and messages I've reviewed --
is about 10,000 levels smarter than I (or any of us in this field) would
ever hope to be!!! But still, even if he's older -- he doesn't have the
certs -- so I can legally make the claim to my five minutes of fame!! The
only drawback here is that one of my grandsons has passed his CCNA -- at 16
yrs old (yipes).
Anyway enuf (I always liked to spell it that way -- to spite the nuns who
used to beat me for that) about me and my age. Let's get back to studying
and helping each other.
Regards
Greg Macaulay
Oldest CCNP/DP on Earth
Lifetime Member of AARP
Retired Attorney/Law Professor
-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Wigle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 2:23 PM
To: Greg Macaulay; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CCDA [7:2971]
Greg,
to my recollection - yes, CCNA was once required to get CCDA. That's what I
did "in the beginning".
But the easiest way to check is probably to look at the front of many of the
older CCxx books - they all had a chapter on certification and what was
required.
Unfortunately, I don't have one here on site but I own just about all of
them. So I'll check later unless someone else has one handy and looks.
I just posted that because to me one-exam certs can't really be accepted as
anything more than an absolute beginning and I thought that CCNA was good
for that. Design is generally considered a more "experienced" occupation
and therefore to me CCDA was also ok at needing 2 exams.
To me, lowering the CCDA to an one exam cert takes some of the "shine" off
of it. Of course since I hold CCNP/CCDP the point for me is moot but back
at the "beginning" I thought that CCDA was a "higher" cert than CCNA. Now
they're somewhat equal. (again in my opinion)
Kevin Wigle
p.s. - I can't remember reading you providing any proof of "Oldest CCNP/DP
on Earth"
care to elaborate??? :-)
----- Original Message -----
From: Greg Macaulay
To: Kevin Wigle ;
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 12:13 PM
Subject: RE: CCDA [7:2971]
> Kevin,
>
> I'm not sure that you're not still sleepin' -- so to speak
>
> I just checked the CCDA and CCDP requirements. You are correct that the
> CCNA is NOT a prerequisite for the CCDA (I'm too old to recall whether the
> CCNA WAS ONCE a requirement!!-- but I don't think so!). However, in order
> to obtain the CCDP designation, you must have the CCNA (not to mention the
> other reqs.)
>
> So, IMHO I don't think that a watering down has occurred.
>
> Regards
>
> Greg Macaulay
> Oldest CCNP/DP on Earth
> Lifetime Member of AARP
> Retired Attorney/Law Professor
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Kevin Wigle
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 7:31 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: CCDA [7:2971]
>
>
> Dear Group,
>
> I guess I've been sleeping again......
>
> It used to be the case that getting CCDA meant that you have passed CCNA
and
> DCN.
>
> However looking at CCO, it seems that CCDA is now a one exam cert also -
> although:
>
> CCDA Prerequisites
>
> Knowledge and skills to install, configure, and operate small networks.
CCNA
> certification is highly recommended.
> Making it easier to get the junior certs I guess. Whether that is a good
> thing........
>
>
> Kevin Wigle
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