Pete,
Actually when I was at Cisco in '96 from what I remember employees had to
get 80% on the written as opposed to the 65% the public had to get but I
don't know if that's still the case today. For the lab, employees just had
to get 80% which is the same as everyone else.

Brian Dennis, CCIE #2210 (R&S)(ISP/Dial) CCSI #98640
5G Networks, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(925) 260-2724


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Peter Van Oene
> Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 3:37 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Congrats [7:4044]
>
>
> I don't believe this is accurate.  Certainly Cisco employees are
> expected to
> reach the same score as everyone else on the lab and pre qualification for
> CCIE.  10 or 15% would mean that you'd need 90-95% to pass the lab which
> would make it pretty tough.  I know that instructors (CCSI's) have to pass
> the career certification exams with an elevated rate but hadn't heard that
> practise extended elsewhere.
>
> Pete
>
>
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>
> On 5/10/2001 at 5:58 PM Roger Sohn wrote:
>
> >I think most people don't understand that if you do work for Cisco,
> >employees are required to score 10 or 15% higher than the regular passing
> >score.  And that also goes for the CCIE Lab exam as well as the
> other CCxx
> >tests.
> >
> >Cisco also only allows 2 free lab attempts, and anything after that you
> >have
> >to pay for the entire amount that everyone else pays.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Q [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 2:26 PM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: Congrats [7:4044]
> >
> >
> >Gee that's kinda like working at Microsoft as a Windowz architech and
> >getting your MCSE! How hard can that be? Send me the CCIE's work
> resume out
> >side of the lab of Cisco, then i'll be impressed..See if you can manage
> >Riverstone and Nortel equipment as well.....Well first you gotta survive
> >the
> >Cisco layoffs. Bummer...heh..
> >
> >Q
> >
> >"Frank Kim"  wrote in message
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> I'm proud of you.  Go Vietnamese!  I'm taking my lab this November
> >> also.  I hope I will be the second Vietnamese person who will send out
> >> such good news to the group.
> >>
> >> -Frank
> >>
> >>
> >>  On Thu, 10 May 2001, DUNG H. LE wrote:
> >>
> >> > May 7-8, 2001 - RTP Lab facility
> >> >
> >> > This was attempt 2. I changed my study habits from attempt 1, and
> >therefore
> >> > testing technique, for my attempt 2  (you perform like you
> >> > practice..right?).  It paid off. The change was to monotonously ping
> >every
> >> > interface IP / IPX address from every router. I made a list of the
> >> addresses
> >> > and ran through all of them from every router. I believe this lack of
> >> > attention to detail is what did me in on attempt one.
> >> >
> >> > Time management was key.  If I didn't know the config off
> the top of my
> >> > head, I skipped it.  This allowed me to complete the entire day 1
> >portion 3
> >> > hours early.  I had 4 areas that I needed to think about, so I saved
> >them
> >> > for last.  I methodically approached each of the 4 areas, knocked out
> >each
> >> > requirement, and had 1 hour left to do the testing above.
> My strategy
> >was
> >> > that no matter what, I would take the last hour to test thoroughly, I
> >just
> >> > happened to get my 4 items done.  Day 2 was the same way...although
> >only
> >3
> >> > hours for the first part, I still had 45 minutes to test it all.
> >> >
> >> > Troubleshooting was by far the most nerve-racking
> experience.  I had a
> >> > "trouble ticket" list and was told to find as many problems
> as I could
> >and
> >> > document/fix them (one liners).  Unexpectedly I had to troubleshoot a
> >> > different network than the one I had spent a day and a half
> >configuring.
> >3
> >> > hours was the time limit to learn a new topology, IP scheme, protocol
> >> > intent, and then fix as much as possible.  I don't feel like I was
> >ready
> >> for
> >> > this, and must have just kept calm enough to manage it.
> >> >
> >> > The waiting is a nerve killer.  You wait before the lab
> starts about an
> >> hour
> >> > for everything and everyone to get ready.  You wait all
> night long for
> >> > status on day 1's score.  You wait after day 2 build out...1.5 hours
> >for
> >> > me.... to find out if you made it to troubleshooting.  Then you wait
> >while
> >> > they add up the points and spit a number out of the computer.... or
> >not.
> >> > Howard ???? was the best!!! Comic relief goes a long way to ease my
> >stress,
> >> > and he delivered. I was very comfortable in the RTP environment.
> >> >
> >> > Study material used / frequency:
> >> > Caslow 2nd edition - read it cover to cover once.
> >> > Ccbootcamp labs - practiced daily (almost and minus weekends) for 4
> >> > months.... 4-6 hours per day on a rack of equipment that was very
> >similar
> >> to
> >> > the real thing.  I was very comfortable with what was required of me
> >for
> >> day
> >> > 1 and 2 build out.  In retrospect I would have practiced a
> bit more on
> >> > troubleshooting.  I was not comfortable with this at all and
> could have
> >> used
> >> > some familiarity with strategy and tactic on this part.
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