AMEN!! =))
""scott mann"" wrote in message
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> I work with dozens of CCIE's in different departments on a day to day
basis.
> My company builds Router/Switch traffic/protocol generators/analyzers. Our
> equipment is in many buidlings on Cisco's San Jose campus. Being a support
> engineer affords me the opportunity to work hand in hand with these
> guys/gals(yes, quite a few are female) in developing tests for their
> particular group/project. With this said, I can tell you some real world
> truths;
> CCIEs come in every size, shape, and IQ level. Some are managers who
rarely
> involve themselves in test grunt work, while others are basking in the
glory
> of plain old hard work(with a matching 5 figure salary). I believe that
> being a CCIE gives someone a certain level of respect for their
> accomplishment, but that only takes you so far; after that you must prove
> yourself to be an intelligent, hard working person who is versitile,
> communicates well, and gets things done. Some of the CCIEs I work with
amaze
> me at their inability to solve/create solutions for what seem to be
> relatively minor issues. Am I putting them down - no way. Obviously the
have
> quite a bit of personal experience and knowledge going for them or else
they
> would not have the little circle emblem on their cube name-plate. But
> suffice it to say, that you don't have to be gifted to be a CCIE; hard
work
> can make up IQ points any day. You simply can't beat experience (5-10
years
> of working with routers/switches is worth a lot when sitting next to the
> protcor). But if you have a knack for this stuff, and a hell of a lot of
> determination, then there is no reason why you can't go from being a
network
> neophite to CCIE in a year or less. Becoming a CCIE is not like 8-12 years
> of school and internship; it's practically a crime how we can expect to be
> paid so much for so little in the way of real benefit to the world. Moving
> ones and zeros is cool, but don't cry about the state of affairs the
Future
> of Networking is in. This field will always pay the best people top dollar
> because these people provide value - their mind is in a continuing state
of
> evolution paralleling the advancment of technology. If you want to be a
CCIE
> just to make big money, great. But don't be disappointed at your salary
once
> you get there if you are not one of the best in your field. Work towards
> excellence everyday, learn every detail of the fundamentals, and value-add
> the latest technology to your skill set. Always provide more value than
your
> expense and you will never have to worry about $$$. 1 year ago I had no
job
> after having lost my business to some bad luck. I had no money and no
> skills, so I decided to go into the computer field. I taught myself MCSE
in
> about 3 months and got a job doing level 1 help desk. I then started my
> Cisco certs last november (CCNA) followed by CCNP & CCIE written and will
> pass the Lab within 3-4 months. I have less than a year in the field and I
> MAKE MORE THAN SOME CCIEs I work with. Does that mean that being a CCIE
> sucks? NO! But being good a what you do is more important. Be an expert at
> each new thing you learn, then the money will come along with self-respect
> and the respect of others.
>
> Sorry about the run-on sentence, but although I love this forum and the
> great people that take time out to help each other in here, I do get kinda
> irked when I see the cries of woe regarding certs or jobs..
>
> If you want top dollar, demand it. Let your mind command attention from
> companies and you will get what you deserve. It is as simple as this.
> Companies will only pay you as much as they can afford and still get value
> for their investment. If you are always providing top value, your stock
will
> soar. Certs don't mean jack in many real world hot seats. A quick mind and
> deep well of knowledge drive the best cars.
>
> Well, thats my soapbox...back to the books and routers...
>
> SAM
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