rise above it dude - we know you're better than that, long week or not
take care
Andy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Howard C. Berkowitz"
To:
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 10:21 PM
Subject: RE: Subject: Re: CCIE #7354 - for Jeff McCoy [7:3998]
> The Cabletron routing card, for a long time, was an IGS router card
> mechanically modified to fit into Cabletron's form factor. Cisco and
> Cabletron had a really big fight about licensing a few years ago, and
> Cisco very ostentatiously withdrew the agreement.
>
> This whole thread does have its silliness. I was doing
> internetworking long before Cisco was founded. Try asynchronous
> process control between PDP-8 instrument controllers and PDP-11
> timesharing machines (1970), Uniscope 300 on UNIVAC running EXEC 8
> (1967), IBM BSC remote batch (1971), etc. MITRENET broadband LANs in
> the late 70s. Later, at Telenet, it was a big step to go from our
> Prime minicomputer routers to the custom-built multi-6502 packet
> switches. My first IP was on Sun 3's.
>
> Newbies and wannabes. Yup.
>
> Haven't seen you at the IETF, NANOG, RIPE, or IRTF, Q. Written any
> RFC's lately? Architected any routers? Developed protocol
> conformance or performance tests?
>
> Hey, it's been a long week.
>
>
> >I know the answer to this one guys! 5 years ago I had the unfortunate
job
> >of working in a mixed Cabletron and Cisco environment. As I was looking
> >around in one of our routers in NY I saw that the device was running IOS.
> >So I replied to my mentor, "I thought that you said this was a Cabletron
> >box"? "It is" he said. You see Cabletron licensed the IOS software from
> >Cisco many years ago to run on some of their boxes. I can see where some
> >folks might get this confused. I still have two of these devices sitting
in
> >my storage room.
> >
> >Tim LeBrun
> >CCNA, CCDA
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Paul Werner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 1:55 PM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: Subject: Re: CCIE #7354 - for Jeff McCoy [7:3998]
> >
> >
> >That's odd. I was not aware of these salient facts you have
> >delineated below. I guess I must have been working with a
> >misunderstanding here. My understanding is that the origins of
> >the Cisco Internetworking Operating System (IOS) is most
> >closely aligned from the TOPS-20 programming language. This
> >was relayed to me by one of the three team members who wrote
> >the original command line help (on or about IOS version 9.11 or
> >thereabouts). He also happened to be the first CCIE outside of
> >Cisco and the second CCIE in the world. I guess he could have
> >been mistaken. Maybe this guy might be able to shed some light:
> >
> >http://www.clock.org/~fair/education.html
> >
> >As far as the origins of Cisco as a company are concerned,
> >their history is fairly well documented. The original founders
> >were Sandy Lerner and Len Bozack. They were at Stanford at the
> >time and they needed a device that would pass network packets
> >across the campus. This ultimately ended up taking the form of
> >a multi-protocol router. You can read about it here:
> >
> >http://www.pbs.org/opb/nerds2.0.1/serving_suits/cisco.html
> >
> >As it turns out, Sandy is still controversial and frequently
> >makes the local papers (washington Post et al) on things she is
> >doing. She still lives on the horse farm out in Loudoun
> >County, Virginia.
> >
> >Have a nice day.
> >
> >v/r,
> >
> >Paul Werner
> >
> >
> >> Ha ha you guys are too funny, but failed to contribute
> >anything of
> >> substance. Way to go newbies and wannabies. LOL!
> >>
> >> BTW, youngen Eric, I was troubleshooting Cabletrons b4 there
> >was Cisco.
> >> And
> >> the relationship? Guess where Cisco and IOS came from?
> >CABLETRON. You
> >> learn
> > > something new everyday don't ya newbie.
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