Any CCIE or CCIE candidate worth his salt would want the lab to be tougher.
A number of study aids are now available that were not in the past. This
has somewhat lessened the difficulty of the process (as witnessed by the
backlog of people taking the lab after breezing through the written).
Making it tougher is just a method of counterbalancing all of the increased
study aids and maintaining the value of the CCIE cert.
If you truly want to obtain your CCIE then you should want it to be as
difficult as possible, otherwise where is the value in the cert? If you are
not up to the challenge, then don't make the attempt.
As for who should evaluate the CCIE program - most (not all)employers
couldn't begin to answer the questions about what is needed from a CCIE.
The biggest employer of CCIE's is Cisco (by far) so they should already have
an idea of what is needed. Cisco has been respectful enough of the CCIE
population to also ask for their input and most have given it willingly.
My main interested is in preserving the value of the CCIE cert. I am
currently studying for my 2nd CCIE cert and still hope they make it tougher
(before I complete it). I also hope they make the recertification tests
tougher as well.
I'm up to the challenge - are you?
Louie
-----Original Message-----
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Bradley J. Wilson
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 3:11 PM
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Subject: Re: Cisco moving to a one day lab? [7:6735]
Forgive my cynicism, but any CCIE *would* want the lab to be tougher - they
would know that any CCIEs that came along after they received their number
increase the supply, thus lowering the cost of the good. ;-)
I think Cisco ought to be asking companies who *hire* CCIEs what skills
*they* would like to see in those who carry the CCIE certification - not the
number-carrying CCIEs themselves.
BJ
P.S. And while I'm feeling cynical...can we please move the "NT vs. UNIX"
nonsense to private emails or perhaps a different mail list? Theeeeenks.
----- Original Message -----
From: Belt, Louie
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 2:15 PM
Subject: RE: Cisco moving to a one day lab? [7:6735]
I filled out my survey and told them I wanted it to stay a two day lab -
and if anything - make it tougher. The explosion of materials available to
help people get though the written and prepare for the lab has taken some of
the challenge out of the process in my opinion. I would prefer they keep it
a 2 day lab, make it mean as h*** and keep the prestige in the cert. I also
told them I did not want them to stop issuing the medal for those who
succeed.
Louie
-----Original Message-----
From: CCIE Wanna BE
To: Belt, Louie; '[EMAIL PROTECTED] '
Sent: 6/1/01 8:23 AM
Subject: RE: Cisco moving to a one day lab? [7:6735]
So what is everyone's take?
--- "Belt, Louie" wrote:
> That is simply one possible solution. They have
> sent a survey out to all of
> the CCIE's to get their feedback and suggestions.
>
> Louie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CCIE Wanna BE
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 6/1/01 5:35 AM
> Subject: Cisco moving to a one day lab? [7:6735]
>
> A Cisco manager/CCIE told me that Cisco was planing
> on
> moving from the two day CCIE lab, to a one day
> (because of the back log). But the 1 day isn't
> going
> to be easier, it's going to be harder....
>
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