Priscilla,
You have more than done you bit and I might now quote to all potential
MCSE's 2000 that the firstbook quoted in the New Riders Series for #70-221
Exam Network Infrastructure Design was.......Top Down Network Design by you
know who. As for you recommendations to your book surely we start with TDND
and work our way through the whole design process. TDND is the basis of
Network Design FULL STOP.
Karl
P.S. Got any other good sources though!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Priscilla Oppenheimer"
To:
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 10:42 PM
Subject: CID books [7:8062]
> Oh, and I discovered one more strange thing. The current course
description
> for CID is a paraphrasing of the first few paragraphs of my book, Top-Down
> Network Design. I guess this is a good thing. I always wanted the CID
class
> to teach more top-down methodology which I came up with after I wrote my
> version of CID. I'm kind of upset that they didn't tell me about this
> usurping of my material, but it's par for the course (so to speak).
>
> The good news is that I think I can now authentically recommend my book
for
> CID:
>
> Top-Down Network Design.
>
> Priscilla
>
> At 05:28 PM 6/11/01, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> >At 04:48 PM 6/11/01, hal9001 wrote:
> > >Priscilla,
> > >
> > >You asked for this one, if the Cisco Press Book for CID is off topic (a
> > >bit?) then can you state a better source, I'm not asking for
testimonials
> > >here but just a targeted source for exam success.
> >
> >The Sybex book is good for CID. In this case the author took the test
many
> >times to make sure the book covers what's really on the test. Since Cisco
> >seems to be incapable of explaining accurately what is really on the
test,
> >that's the only way to know for sure.
> >
> >The CID version control is out of control and could affect the decision
on
> >which book is best. The course outline (which says version 3.0) here
> >includes VPN, voice and video stuff. But I know that 3.0 really doesn't
> >include those topics.
> >
>
>http://www.cisco.com/pcgi-bin/front.x/wwtraining/CELC/index.cgi?action=Cour
seDesc&COURSE_ID=321
> >
> >The list of the exam objectives here are the list of objectives that I
> >wrote for each chapter in 1995 for Version 2.0. Seriously. Notice that
the
> >list doesn't cover WAN Switching, for example, which is, in fact, in 3.0.
> >
>
>http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/current_exa
ms/640-025.html
> >
> >So it's truly a mess. Sorry I can't be more help. Everyone I knew at
Cisco
> >got laid off! ;-)
> >
> >Priscilla
> >
> >
> > >Thanks Karl
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Priscilla Oppenheimer"
> > >To:
> > >Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 9:09 PM
> > >Subject: Re: Passed switching [7:7986]
> > >
> > >
> > > > The exam and course are written by Cisco. It's not always the same
> >person.
> > > > If the course has a mistake, the exam may not have the same mistake.
> > > > (Hopefully it won't!)
> > > >
> > > > Some of the Cisco Press books are the course notes ported to book
> format.
> > > > The Cisco Press editor who develops the book may have a hard job
> because
> > >he
> > > > or she must produce an accurate book even if the course is not
> accurate.
> > >In
> > > > some cases mistakes carry over, but usually they are caught. In a
few
> > >cases
> > > > the editor got a bit too creative and the book is "off course." Like
> the
> > > > Cisco Press CID book, which is a good book, but is not as well
targeted
> > > > toward the test as it could be.
> > > >
> > > > Sybex books are written by people not directly associated with
Cisco.
> > >These
> > > > authors take the exam over and over again until they are qualified
to
> > >write
> > > > a book to help you study for the exam.
> > > >
> > > > Bottom line: learn it the right way. If you miss a question on the
test
> > > > because you knew it the right way and the test writer didn't, it's a
> > >shame,
> > > > but you gotta just live with it. Hopefully that situation is rare.
> > > >
> > > > Priscilla
> > > >
> > > > At 03:05 PM 6/11/01, Gareth Hinton wrote:
> > > > >The Cisco Press book is almost identical to the course notes, which
I
> > > > >believe the exam is written from.
> > > > >In fact, it seems the Cisco Press book has less errors than the
> official
> > > > >notes.
> > > > >
> > > > >I'm on the course at the moment. The table on page 41 of the Cisco
> Press
> > > > >book is actually wrong on the course notes (Version 1.1) although
> > >corrected
> > > > >in the Cisco book. (RIPv1/IGRP VLSM support???? among others)
> > > > >
> > > > >Is the exam written by someone for Sybex based on the course notes?
> i.e.
> > > > >Will we have to use the wrong answer on the exam?
> > > > >
> > > > >Priscilla and co.? Do you know what the process is from previous
> > >experience?
> > > > >
> > > > >Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > >Gaz
> > > > >
> > > > >I'm on the routing course at the moment.
> > > > >""Phantom"" wrote in message
> > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > > Just passed switching ,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Some MLS some Multicast, in general a well balanced exma had a
bit
> of
> > > > > > everything mentioned on the blueprint, now on to Routing,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Used Sybex and cisco press books also used the free test on
> > >examcram.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any ideas of what I should use to study for the routing exam?
> > > > ________________________
> > > >
> > > > Priscilla Oppenheimer
> > > > http://www.priscilla.com
> >________________________
> >
> >Priscilla Oppenheimer
> >http://www.priscilla.com
> ________________________
>
> Priscilla Oppenheimer
> http://www.priscilla.com
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