I think you're overdoing the solution when you have an almost zero downtime
solution ni front of you.  Just fail the first unit & let the 2nd take over.
Then with the first one offline, upgrade it & let the
failover..well...failover ;)  When done just make sure the config is correct
on the first one and do whatever it takes to get the first one back online.
I've never tried just shutting the failover box off to see if it would
trigger back to the first box with a different OS but even if that fails
just reboot the first one and it should come back up happy.  Now your
network is back the way it was with only 2 very small windows of downtime.
Upgrade 2nd PIX and hook up failover.

If you're concerned about the primary taking over again when you're trying
to upgrade, don't.  Just boot it up hitting ESC so it doesn't load the
config so you can manually give it an IP, subnet, gateway, and tftp server
address.  Without the config loaded it won't be part of the failover.

Allen

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Smith" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 1:53 AM
Subject: Recommendations on PIX upgrade [7:10380]


> This may be a stupid question but that's never stopped me from asking
before.
>
> At one site I have 2 UR 515's running in failover config. They are at
5.2(1)
> software. I'd like to upgrade them but can only afford an absolute minimum
> of down time (measured in seconds, maybe). From what I've read about the
PIX
> units, for failover to work, I believe each unit must be configured
> identically - same hardware, OS version, configuration - or failover
doesn't
> work.
> What my plan currently is to start by taking the standby PIX (PIX2) down
and
> do a 6.0.1 upgrade. I guess the question that I have is, and here comes
the
> stupid part, if I reconnect the two with PIX2 at 6.0.1 and PIX1 still at
> 5.2(1) will anything bad happen (my hair fall out, I contract an incurable
> STD, smoke come from either/both of the boxes)? Assuming that nothing
> horrible happens, when I take the PIX1 box down to upgrade it will PIX2
(now
> on a different OS version) detect that the hot PIX has dropped offline and
> come up as in failover? If it won't on it's own can I do a "failover
active"
> or a similar command to force PIX2 to become active? Will the children
play
> well together again after I do a 6.0.1 upgrade on PIX1? Or will I have to
> bring PIX2 down, upgrade it (while PIX1 is still up) and then bring PIX1
> down (leaving PIX2 down), upgrade it and then bring both back up together
> once they are on the same OS version level? I realize that with a laptop
> that has TFTP server software connected to PIX1 and has the pix601.bin
image
> on it the upgrade process doesn't take long. But if I choose the last
method
> of taking both boxes down that, by the time that cables are switched
around
> as required, box(es) are rebooted, bring the 2nd box up in monitor mode,
> copy the image, reboot, reconnect failover cabling (as needed), the
process
> would probably measured in minutes of total down time before both would be
> back online. That might as well be days as far as my bosses are concerned.
> Just looking for alternatives.
> Thanks for any advice/experience/thoughts. Sorry if this doesn't belong in
> studygroup.com. I just know that there's a lot of experience and common
> sense here.
>
> (END stupid questions)




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