I don't suppose any of you geeks on this list have ever studied any
economics? ;->
The laws of supply and demand are still in effect. Consider:
1) there are tens of thousands of us wannabees in the pipeline, drawn
because of the anticipated salaries and other benefits the certification
permits. lab format change or no, how many CCIE's will there be in five
years, given current award rates? by my estimate well over 12,000.
2) there are powerful business advantages to consulting firms with enough
CCIE's on staff to meet the highest Cisco Partner level.
3) it has been difficult for companies to obtain and / or retain CCIE's
4) it is expensive to set up and run testing facilities. in times of
economic slowdown, particularly for a company whose stock has lost 75% of
its value in the last year, Cisco management has other priorities.
5) Cisco is a marketing company first and foremost. Their sole interest is
in selling product
6) Cisco is under pressure from its channel to do something to help the
channel obtain the highest partnership status.
7) the dirty unspoken truth is that everyone - Cisco, the channel partners,
customers - want something to happen to limit the salaries CCIE's currently
demand. The only way that can happen is if there is a surplus of CCIE's in
the marketplace. CCIE's and CCIE candidates, of course, hope otherwise.
There is nothing that can be done to stop this train. thousands in the
pipeline. thousands want their turn on the gravy train. the situation has
occurred because of a shortage of skilled labor. supply and demand. salaries
rose. with thousands drawn into the game, salaries will level out, or even
decline.
when I was in high school, the gospel of the day was that a college degree
was the ticket to the good life. by the time I got my degree, it was not
unheard of to find ads for people with college degrees who could lift 50
pounds.
one last comment to end this long and ponderous post. I'm one of those whose
next lab attempt will be the one day format. so when I pass I will be one of
the CCIE with the *. NOT. the CCIE will remain as valuable as the person who
wears it. Mr. Employer - mediocre employees are a dime a dozen. Outstanding
employees are invaluable. In the end, it is your skill set, your
comportment, your insight, and the value you bring to a situation that gives
value. Not a 2 day versus a 1 day lab.
best wishes to everyone in their journey to the top.
Chuck
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I think this also means that you are going to see the prestige of the
certification
diminish. Part of the prestige is that only a few people in the world have
the
certification. If say 80- 85% of people taking the exam pass then
increasing the number
of people taking the exam will increase the amount of people that pass (more
people will
be certified at a faster rate). Part of the reason CCIE are paid so much is
that there
are so few out there. From a supply and demand perspective does this not
decrease the
monetary advantage of attaining the certification for the individual. For
Cisco this is
great ( more people being certified in their equipment at a higher level).
This comes
at an especially opportune time when the competition is beginning to creep
up on them.
What better way to market yourself than to say look at the amount of "highly
trained"
individuals out there who can support my equipment.
John Hardman wrote:
> Hi All
>
> Well Cisco has announced their plans...
>
> http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ccie_program/whatsnew.html
>
> --
> John Hardman CCNP MCSE
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