-Such is true, and from what I can tell you both are right.  In my
experience, a Win box will not respond to a ping if there is not layer1
connectivity, while a Solaris box will.  Why?.. I don't know.  Solaris seems
to
associate the interface with a name first and then with an IP, while Win is
the other way around.  Any protocol gurus there??,  Priscilla, any input??
(aside: I read your book to pass my CCDA two years ago, still one of my
favorites.  I've got a crush on you don't ever change I will be your groupie
if you want one xoxoxo) plus you are one of
the best contributors to this list! I don't agree that the OS does not care
about layer1, if you don't have a link on a windoze box, you will NOT be
able to ping it locally NO HOW NO WAY see.  Hmm... alright how many CCNA's
does it take to change an IP address on a PC?  

Ten, one to do it and nine to bitch that it is not their a job, a MCSE
should handle it.  Long live the acronyms.
-Patrick AADF,KDJC,KIE,KID,KMM, QWOD, KDIOE, LOD+I 
 
On Fri, 27 Jul 2001 18:04:38 -0400, Patricia Leeb-Hart wrote:

>  Ray,
>  
>  I'm not sure what you mean when you state that if "done that with a PC
the
>  interface would not work"...Let's take it to mean that you would try to
ping
>  an address assigned to PC's network interface.  Depends on what the
>  "interface" is comprised of.  E.g, Windows 9x, NT and 2k  and Linux (hey,
>  it's a PC operating system too! ) all allow you to create a hosts file
and
>  of course you always have the loopback and, if you're not using DHCP, the
>  local host addresses.  So if you've loaded a TCP/IP stack you can always
>  ping those addresses.  The fact that they're not physical interfaces or
>  connected to one don't matter beans to IP (Layer 3, remember?), that's
not
>  for it to know or care about.   Now, normally you'd have a NIC installed
and
>  the host address assigned to that so you also have Layers 2 and 1
>  functionality, but they're _not necessary for a ping to happen_.  See
what
>  I'm driving at?  I'm quite ignorant of Sun hardware, but I'll bet that
le0
>  is a virtual interface (Solaris shells don't care about layer 1 either)
>  representing some physical interface that may or may not be hooked up to
an
>  actual transmission medium.  The fact is that an interface (physical or
>  virtual) is configured with an address and it's active is enough for
PING.
>  
>  >
>  >""Ray Smith""  wrote in message
>  >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>  > > Guys,
>  > >
>  > > I was putting a lab together and noticed something wierd.  I
configured 
>  >my
>  > > Sparc (Unix) station's Le0 interface with an IP address, brought it
up 
>  >and
>  > > decided to play around with it a little.  I noticed that I could ping

>  >the
>  >IP
>  > > that I configured on the interface although it was disconnected
>  >from/plugged
>  > > OUT of the hub.  I asked one of the Unix guys at my job if this was
>  >strange
>  > > and he said NO!  He could not tell me why but only said that it will
>  >always
>  > > be able to ping the IP address configured on the box despite the fact

>  >that
>  > > it is not connected to a Hub.
>  > >
>  > > What I need to know guys is WHY.  I am not just satisfied with the
fact
>  >that
>  > > it is suppose happen unless I can know WHY it happen.  Any takers
here?
>  > > Thanks dude.
>  > >
>  > > Ray
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