Some points:

- you could pass the CCIE written without a CCNP (lots of pre-CCNA CCNP,
CCIE's obviously have)
- CCNA and CCNP certs are for the benefit of employers as well as yourself
- i found it much more manageable and beneficial to focus on each topic
seperately.
- when doing the CCNP, the depth of knowledge required on each subject
(routing, switching, remote access, support) is only to your benefit. Each
exam for the CCNP really tests on more intimate detailed knowledge than the
CCIE written will.
- having made the above points...and you still decide to by-pass the CCNP
then you must have a library that contains: Cisco LAN Switching (cisco
press), Routing TCP/IP Vol 1 and 2 (cisco press...of which one you have),
Internet Routing Architectures (cisco press), CCNP Study Guide 'Building
Cisco Remote Access Networks' (cisco press), and likewise the 'CCNP Support
Exam Certification Guide' (cisco press)....some ATM material as well (Cisco
ATM Solutions)...and of course this is just a suggestion :)

The caslow book is great, good choice - but the CCIE Study Guide from Sybex
was really good for an overview...and don't forget that token ring white
paper....

Thanks for the encouragement - and good luck to you too.

Oliver


""Spencer Penfield""  wrote in message
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> Gongrats on your passing CCIE written and good luck with the LAB.
>
> I have a question. A bit about myself. I am a CCNA 2.0 and MCSE 4.0 and
CNA
> 5.0 with over 3 years of Novell/NT networking experience.  At my work, I
> have access to Cisco 2500, 2600 and 3600 series routers. But as you may
know
> the real small campus networks are configured with static routes and there
> is no way to practice.  I am trying to by-pass CCNP and go for the CCIE
> written and prepare for the lab.  I have got Caslow's book for CCIE prep,
> Jeff Doyle's TCP/IP Routing and using Cisco Mentor Sim Labs.  You
mentioned
> that after getting CCNP it is easier to pass CCIE written.  I guess my
> question is How difficult is to take CCIE written by-passing CCNP exams?
My
> approach is to study for CCIE written combined as one big topic,  rather
> than dividing it to Routing, Switching, Remote Access, and Support.  This
> provides me a bigger picture. Since I am an MCSE and it was not difficult
to
> pass CCNA with 924 score. I only had to familiarize myself with Cisco
router
> commands. I have also subscribed to examcram.com to receive free questions
> everyday for Routing & Switching, Support, Switching and Remote Access. I
> have answered 85-90 percent correctly.
>
> Any ideas are appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> SP




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