I should have limited that to one big area vs one big area 0.  I'm all for
single areas when they suit, but I agree that using a non zero area can have
some benefits.

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On 8/17/2001 at 10:24 AM Howard C. Berkowitz wrote:

>>I'm not sure where you got the idea that one big area zero is a bad
>thing?
>
>Me, as one example.
>
>But let me make an important distinction, borrowing from George Orwell
>
>     Four legs good               One big area not necessarily bad
>     Two legs bad                 One big area zero bad
>
>If you have a moderate number of routers without any obvious 
>hierarchy, a single area can make perfectly good sense.  I do 
>recommend, however, numbering that area ANYTHING but 0.0.0.0.
>
>You don't need your first area to be 0.0.0.0.  But if later company 
>growth, mergers/acquisitions/divestitures, etc., mean that hierarchy 
>becomes appropriate, your second area MUST be 0.0.0.0, and the third, 
>etc., are nonzero.
>If you start by numbering all the routers in the One Big Area in 
>0.0.0.0, that means that you will need to renumber the network 
>statements when you grow.  Making the One Big Area 0.0.0.1 won't hurt 
>anything and will make things much more flexible with respect to 
>future requirements.
>
>Incidentally, in a multivendor conversion like this, be sure to 
>specify area numbers and router IDs explicitly and in four-octet 
>format -- in other words, area 0.0.0.1, not area 1.  Not all vendors 
>interpret area numbers in the same way -- Bay RS, in some versions, 
>would convert "area 1" to "area 1.0.0.0."  3Com's default router ID, 
>on some platforms, was derived through some strange algorithm based 
>on part of an interface MAC address.
>
>See other comments inline.
>
>>
>>In this case, I would highly recommend it.  This is a pretty small network
>>and I really don't see the benefit of adding hierarchy to it from a
>>multi-area perspective.  Keep in mind that the more you segment an OSPF
>area
>>into sub-areas, the more link state qualities you forego.  I'd go with
>your
>>boss on this one.
>>
>>Pete
>>
>>
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>>On 8/17/2001 at 12:17 AM Bob Timmons wrote:
>>
>>>Greetings all,
>>>
>>>We're converting our 3Com router world to Cisco soon and I have a
>question
>>>regarding the OSPF design.  I'm including a link to a JPG in case anyone
>>>wants to add their 2 cents.  You can see it at:
>>>
>>>http://members.tripod.com/~bobtimmons/network-1.jpg
>>>
>>>This is a somewhat simplistic view of our network and the IP's aren't
>real,
>>>but I'm hoping it makes sense regardless.  We currently have a full T1
>to a
>>>frame cloud and our other 2 main buildings are off of that cloud as well,
>>>one is 1M, the other is the balance of the T.  Both of the remote sites
>are
>>>pointing to the 1 PVC at our main site.  My question is, would this OSPF
>>>network work?  I know the OBAZ, (One Big Area Zero - Wow! My first
>>>acronym! - Hey Howard, feel free to use that one), is frowned upon, but
>>>that's how my boss wants it, because that's how it is now.  Not good
>logic,
>>>but I have to follow orders sometimes.
>>>
>>>A note:  We have other sites off of the main site (Site 1) in another
>Frame
>>>Cloud.  It shouldn't affect what we're doing here, though.
>>>
>>>Also, I didn't include the IPX networks on the Ethernet ports.  That's
>not
>>>a
>>>real issue right now.
>>>
>>>Specifically, I'm unsure about using the Loopbacks.  We're going to use
>>>them
>>>for our DLSW (not pictured) links.  What I'm unsure about is, can I use
>>>these addresses, as given, with their masks, and distribute them via OSPF
>>>and have it work?
>
>
>Yes, you can distribute loopbacks just fine.
>
>>  >
>>>If I'm completely off here, please feel free to let me know.
>>>
>>>I'm including the proposed configs (snipped)
>>>
>>>Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>  >Site1 -




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