Priscilla, While I always welcome and look out to reading your comments...How can you rationalize an illogical act? While I do agree, many of us are angry and many are grieving, I completely agree everyone is entitled to an opinion it is the person assuming that they know the USA government or it's citizen's behavior and not to mention, what these terrorist's were thinking! This can only be the case if they are close enough to ascertain such a comment. However, what I took from this person is that they feel we (American citizens) are the problem...not the terrorists. We are the 'Big Bad USA' not the terrorist. Our freedom is the problem, not the terrorists. For God's sake, let's not try to be Psychologist's here and remain Engineers and realize that we're all human and have beliefs and be realistic that their beliefs lean on the underdogs, which are the 3rd world counties, which has Dictators and/or religious beliefs that dictate the direction of their countries and not appreciate the 'freedom' of religion and 'free' speech, and 'free' living as our history demonstrates and embraces. These are two idealism's that cannot mix and as a result innocent people have paid the cost and in part our Government has dropped the ball from the FAA to central intelligence to counter act and/or ignore the threats delivered by these evil, self-destructing people, by not taking them seriously. Ignorance has nothing to do with arrogance. I'm personally so very tired of us making excuses, taking care of other countries when we need help, with our taxes our homeless people, etc., the list goes on, right here and now for our own people, in our own country. Based on the article from 'Canada' which really drives home, the USA have done more than their fair share of assistance, and it is rarely reciprocated, not to mention the various religious organizations, charities and fund raisers for these countries that can't control their corrupt governments and people, when people have given freely, supposedly to those in need. Instead the corrupt people take and take and dribble little to those whom it was intended and later on ask for more funding from the good 'ole USA. The sheer assault on our common good to help and provide assistance and then to take extreme advantage of that generosity by using our educational systems, in which many go back to their countries to help their countries, and/or are able to start and obtain funding and/or government assistance to begin a new life here when we can't even feed our homeless or financially assist the small businesses to get loans to fund their ventures, but other nationalities can come here and get funding and do and then want to come back and Bomb us! Ironically, when you go into these small business establishments, you usually don't see any Amercian's on the P/R! Hey, but that's really ok, isn't it. They're now American citizens, too! My mistake, please pardon my cynicism, I'm really trying to remain positive. If nothing more comes of this to drive home for our people, to be a wake up call, that we should begin looking out more for each other, our families and our fellow American citizens and businesses and holding our government accountable for our tax dollars and security concerns, because we do take accountability seriously here...some heads should roll based on what got thru the cracks! Let's get American back on track for our own social issues, financial dilemmas and political dramas, and once we've paid down our national debt, created more jobs should we then begin planning to help others. This is why I stated earlier, we ARE a Blessed Nation as a whole, regardless if they pay the loans back or not, return the generosity or not, God will and has, despite what has happened...WE WILL OVERCOME! (I promise this will be the end of my venting...thanks for listening and for the positive comments on my previous reply!) Peace to all and God Speed, Aderion Brewer President, MACG Metro Atlanta Cisco Group (MACG) -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Priscilla Oppenheimer Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 12:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance' [7:19799] The original poster was trying to help us see the point of view of the terrorists. He didn't say that he agreed with them. Understanding their viewpoint will help us prepare for further evil deeds from them and help us defeat them. Know thy enemy. This is logical. What the poster didn't understand is that we are grieving and not ready for logic. According to Dr. Elisabeth Kubler-Ross, there are five stages of grief. 1. Denial 2. Anger 3. Bargaining 4. Depression 5. Acceptance Many people are still in the anger stage. This is not a good time to be sending e-mails. They come out all wrong. Let's avoid the topic until everyone calms down. Peace, Priscilla At 06:57 AM 9/13/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >How lovely. > >Reeta, eloquent drivel disguised as intellectualism is still drivel. I'm >saddened that you feel the need to rationalize and excuse murder on such a >scale and by such means. I also find it puts you in the same category as >those who would commit such atrocities. Interestingly enough, do you think >you would be able to voice a similar tirade in other parts of the world? >You speak of us and them, where is it you hail from Reeta? Perhaps you can >advise us here in America how you handle such "us versus them" issues? >Hmmm? Oh wait, based on your essay I think I see how you would handle such >a quandary. > >Your ridiculous manifesto is nothing but a thinly veiled approval form for >the human sewage that committed this act. Your attempt to rationalize it >sickens me. It's always ever so much easier to cloak things like this in >terms that make it all seem like an academic exercise. Terrorism is indeed >about people, as you so stated, and when you have people in this world who >will stop at nothing to destroy others, or to advance their own fanatical >beliefs, there are going to be tragic consequences. > >I had no intention of responding to this long winded "analysis" of yours, >it is flawed both logically and factually. As such I will cut short my >reply. I would certainly hate to seem arrogant. > > > > > > > > >"mehrzee@vsnl > .net" To: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] ________________________ Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=19815&t=19815 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
