To answer your questions:

Yes, that's a fair representation.

I figured out that it was the hub because a hub more or less in this picture
works as a crossed cat5 cable, especially if you only have two devices
connected to it, which I tried before I replaced it with a switch.

Since the switch worked and a crossed cat5 worked, but the hub didn't work -
I was very sure that it was the problem.

I did all the show ... cmd's and tried to clear the arp cache without any
change.

Thanks,

Ole

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-----Original Message-----
From: EA Louie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 4:09 PM
To: Ole Drews Jensen; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: The hub from hell... [7:19818]


I'm assuming that this is a fair representation of the network?

PC --10/100BT-- HUB --10/100BT--- 1720 --- F/R --- 2620 --- CORP-LAN
     Ethernet

why and how did you isolate the problem being the hub?  It doesn't sound
like you had a Sniffer out there.  Did you run any debugs on the 1720 to see
what it was seing?  Any 'show int fast0/0' on the 1720?  A 'show arp' on the
1720?  Does that model 3Com hub do 'micro-segmentation'?

And Ethernet hubs do not have feelings.  However, if they did, they would be
feelin' groovy.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ole Drews Jensen" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 11:30 AM
Subject: The hub from hell... [7:19818]


> This might be slightly off topic, but I would like to get an answer if
> someone has one.
>
> Task:
>
> To change a remote office from an ISDN connection to a Frame Relay
> connection.
>
> Before:
>
> Workstations and printers were connected to a 3COM hub that was connected
to
> a 700 series ISDN router that was directly connected to another 700 series
> router which was connected to our LAN.
>
> Everything was working fine, but slow.
>
> Goal:
>
> Workstations and printers connect to a 3COM hub that connects to a 1720
> router that has a Frame Relay PVC to a 2620 router that connects to our
LAN.
>
> Steps:
>
> I connected the 1720 router to the smartjack and connected it to one
> workstation with a crossed cable to from the FastEthernet interface.
>
> I telnettet into the router and got everything up. I could see the active
> PVC and all was well.
>
> I rebooted the PC and got an IP address (plus more) from the DHCP server
at
> the main office, and logged on to the network without any problems.
>
> The problem began after I got the workstations and printers shut down,
> unplugged the 700 series router from the hub, and connected the 1720
> instead.
>
> I could not login to the network anymore, and I could not ping, tracert or
> telnet into anything on the LAN. However, I could telnet to the 1720
router,
> and from there ping, tracert and telnet to the rest of the LAN.
>
> This was weird, because I knew that the hub worked when connected to the
> ISDN router, and I knew that the 1720 router could see the LAN, and I also
> knew that it worked with a crossed cable instead of the hub.
>
> I finally got a hold of a LinkSys switch which I connected instead of the
> hub, and now everything worked fine.
>
> ?????????
>
> Now, what could cause a hub to allow all communication through a port
> connected to an ISDN router but not a 1720 router, when they both work
with
> a crossed cable and a switch?
>
> I did by the way also clear the arp cache on all my devices on the
network,
> even though the problem didn't really point in that direction.
>
> Anyone has a clue what's going on, or is it something personal that the
hub
> hates the 1720?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ole
>
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>  CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
>  RWR Enterprises, Inc.
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