Hi,
I think if you are running VoATM then choosing ATM would be effective.  But
if you are running VoIP then I think all bets are off as far as ATM concern.
Frame Relay is designed to optimize for data traffic and VoIP is just
another type of data.  So I would prefer Frame Relay better (I found it
easier to troubleshoot a FR-FR connection than FR-ATM connection).  I have
ran both VoATM(native) and VoFR(native) and I did not see much different
between the two (70 remote sites with 10 VoATM and 60 VoIP).  I guess beside
LLQ, you can use RSVP.  One thing about VoIP over Frame Relay is that you do
not want to burst over the frame (i.e. be = 0 => max transmission speed =
CIR ).  I have an article from cisco on VoIP / FR and Data/FR configuration
that deals with this kind of issues.  If you interested, let me know.
I'm about to do VoIP for some sites currently thinking of  LLQ - CBWFQ and
prioritizing traffic using ip precedence.  From what I read, it should give
me fairly good response.
Cheers,
TD

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> Just a quick opinion poll for those of you who have implemented VoIP.
> Given a medium-sized partially-meshed network, would you prefer to use
> ATM or Frame Relay for your transport?  Assume that most locations would
> have DS1 speeds only.
>
> I ask this because I've been hearing a mixture of opinions.  It seems
> to me that ATM would allow us to utilize its CoS.  With FR you don't
> have much control over your traffic beyond FRTS and LLQ.  Once it hits
> the cloud you're at its mercy.
>
> However, I haven't heard any details yet but apparently someone at
> Cisco thinks that ATM has some scalability problems that FR doesn't
> have.  I can't imagine what that would be so it will be interesting to
> hear what he has to say.  I'd be surprised if he suggests FR instead of
> ATM.
>
> Right now, we have a large frame relay network but I'm seriously
> considering migrating portions of it to ATM.  After hearing these
> conflicting opinions I'm really not sure which path to take.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
> John




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