I'd say over the long run, both are lucrative aspects of networking, but I
feel that VoIP may be a better choice.  First off, Cisco has staked it's
future growth on the next-gen converged networks of voice, video, etc.  The
plain old data market is not completely saturated, but it's getting there.
If voice dosen't work out, they wont be able to grow as rapidly as they have
in the past (unless optical takes off again).  So what's good for the goose
is surely good for the gander.  Voice has a huge growth potential, and there
are numerous studies showing the market growing by leaps and bounds over the
next 3 -5 years.  I'm not saying that plain data isn't a big
business, cause it is, but it's not growing by leaps and bounds like it used
to.

Secondly, with voice such a new skill, the playing field is completely
leveled, even against most CCIE's.  I attend many classes at Cisco, and hang
there in the labs once a week, and I've seen plenty of SE's and CCIE's just
clueless (even TAC) about voice.  And even if they're not clueless, they
have been studying just as long as everyone else.  So in terms of skills,
you have a shot to be one of the leading people.  The number of CCIE's is
getting bigger all the time, and there will be a point where they aren't as
valuable.  Face it, when they were super-valuable, it was because networking
was such an in demand skill, just as voice will be.  It's all supply and
demand.   I'm not saying CCIE's aren't still valuable, but
their worth is declining. 
(On a side note, new technologies are pretty cool, and you get to meet the
cream of the crop working on it.  I got to meet Wendel Odom last week and
had the distinct pleasure of having him give a lecture on QOS (important
skill in new networks)!  Where else could you meet such distinguished
people?  Certainly not in a ICND class or even a CCIE bootccamp).

Also, last week at Cisco in MA, there was a pretty big showcase to all the
local business big wigs about the future of VoIP and AVVID, so the buzz is
out there and businesses are noticing.  Our sales people are swamped with
VoIP related stuff.  One guy told me on of his contacts who own's a business
was golfing with a buddy when they began talking about VoIP.  The business
guy didn't even know what VoIP was or what it did, but he had to have it he
was saying.

I feel that converged data networks are the future, and will be a ubiquitous
as e-mail is today.  Security is good also, but it's hard to educate people
that they need a secure network, so it's harder to get a sale in for that
stuff.  But what do I know, I'm not biased or anything


""Nat Heidler""  wrote in message
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> De-lurk mode >on
> Hello, looking for some career pathing advice. I am currently pursuing
CCNP
> but looking to specialize. It seems to me that the two hot paths right now
> are VoIP/AVVID and Security/SAFE.
>
> To get blunt, which one of these specializations is going to be more in
> demand/pay more in the long run? I like both technologies, but what really
> brings this post is a price list I saw recently from a VAR in Kansas City.
> They were charging around $150 for security stuff, but for phone stuff it
> was $225 and up.
>
> I like both technologies, but am not sure which is going to be the better
> road to take. Would appreciate any input on this matter.
>
> Nat




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