you said all that needed to be said... basically, udp port 53 needs to be
allowed through (tcp for zone xfers)  so if you have a static translation to
a dns server in a dmz from the outside you acl would look similar to this.
(pix)

access-list outside permit udp any host 63.203.193.205 eq 53

with a static statement of

static (inside,outside) 63.203.193.205 10.70.48.50 netmask 255.255.255.255 0
0

for hosts on the inside interface (or a higher security interface) that need
to access dns on the internet, a nat and global statement are needed
(perhaps with an overload switch) in which case the state of the connection
woud be kept up within the firewall and will look similar to this.

PAT Global 63.203.193.205(59378) Local 10.11.51.90(1058) 

-Patrick

>>> "Phil"  12/18/01 11:12AM >>>
John- specifically what is your question ???  I've had to do a lot of
DNS related research these past few months (using Meta, Garner, White
Papers, Berkley, Microsoft, etc.), but I don't believe I have seen
specific issues with NAT and DNS.  The Firewalls must be configured to
pass UDP port 53 and can enforce an access-list only to allow certain
servers (say the ISPs primary and yours), TSIG (BIND), or to proxy.
With proxy (say Gauntlet or Symantec's Raptor line-up) the NAT or PAT
portion plays no roll.  As the query moves, @ no time should the DNS
server being polled need to cache the resolver's information (does this
makes sense ???).  I guess, what I am trying to say is that it does not
matter is I am requesting from a global IP address or a private 10.0.0.0
address.  If your lookup is recursive or iterative, the firewall has a
state table, NAT statistics, or a PAT lookup (UNIX programs refer to it
as IP Masquerading), mapping it back to the resolver (be it PC or file
server) that initiated the lookup.

I believe I may not have answered your question

Let me know- I never was asked to deliver my DNS presentation and Im
still miffed Ive been studying such a boring subject as of late :-)
Phil

-----Original Message-----
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John Tafasi
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 3:37 AM
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Subject: CCIE Written: DNS and NAT [7:29461]

Does any body have good resource that explains how NAT on the firewall
works
with DNS?


Thanks

John Tafasi




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