that reminds me...

mark this date on your calendars, everyone. I was WRONG.

I pretty much spent the weekend testing various scenarios, and I have
compiled several pages of observations. But the short of it is that given
the constraints of the scenario - full reachability into a VLSM domain from
an FLSM domain whose prefix is LONGER that most of the routes in the VLSM
domain, and without the use of a default network or default route seems
doable only by judicious use of policy routing. Local policy in particular,
depending upon the topology.

I was thinking that one could create a summary route on the classful
boundary of the network in question. But IGRP in particular will not accept
the summary /16 if all the interfaces in its domain are some other prefix.

Chuck


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Hmmm... interesting.  I'll give it a go in my lab and let you know what
happens.  I'm looking forwards to Chucks answer as well.

The k1d



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> In my testing I was never able to get secondary interfaces to work
> properly.  IGRP would advertise over one or the other, but not both, and
> I wasn't able to figure out how it picked which one to use.  I've
> configured slightly different scenarios from scratch two or three times
> and I could never make secondary IP addresses work.
>
> John
>
> >>> "c1sc0k1d"  12/18/01 12:25:29 PM >>>
> AFAIK, there is only one way to summarize with rip and igrp and that is
> by
> creating a static and redistributing the static.  Since that is not
> possible
> and since we cannot use the default network command we must have an
> ospf
> interface that shares the /27 igrp network to get routes to pass.
> That
> could be performed with secondary addresses or a tunnel interface (or
> a
> frame subinterface).  I think for igrp to advertise on the secondary
> address
> method, it also needs to be configured to advertised on the primary,
> although I could be mistaken.  I know it's that way for eigrp.
>
> The k1d
>
>
>
> ""John Neiberger""  wrote in message
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> > The R1/R8 Tunnel needs to be a /28 since you're trying to get /28
> routes
> > into the IGRP domain.  However, since you're going from a
> longer-match
> > mask to a shorter-mask, you don't need to use this method.  It will
> work
> > but you could also use a couple of the other methods posted.
> >
> > First, you could create a loopback interface on R8 and then assign
> it
> > to a "dummy" OSPF area.  This allows you to use the area range
> command
> > to summarize the /28 routes into a /27.
> >
> > Another option that someone posted was to use two OSPF processes and
> > redistribute one into the other and use the summary-address command.
> >
> > I thought that Chuck's Follies question was how to get shorter-mask
> > routes from OSPF into IGRP.  Using your example, try making the OSPF
> > domain /27 and the IGRP domain /28.  That makes things much more
> > difficult!
> >
> > I've found two ways to handle this and I don't like either one, to
> be
> > honest.  I'm anxiously awaiting Chuck's answer because this is
> really
> > bugging me.  There ought to be an easier way.  However, in the real
> > world we wouldn't have the restrictions of the lab.
> >
> > John
> >
> > >>> "Richard Botham"  12/18/01 8:18:00 AM >>>
> > John,
> > Thanks for wrecking my weekend too......
> > I tried to get this to work using the tunnel method and the
> secondary
> > addressing method but with no success.
> >
> > My lab looks look like this
> >
> > r4--(igrp/27)--r2--(igrp/27)--r1--(igrp /27)--r8--(ospf /28)
> >
> > interfaces
> >
> > r4/r2 network 172.168.10.80/27
> > r2/r1 network 172.168.10.64/27
> > r1/r8 network 172.168.10.16/27
> > r1/r8 tunnel  172.168.11.0/27
> > r8    network 172.168.10.32/28
> >
> >
> > I tried all combinations of /27 & /28 masks on the tunnel to try and
> > get the
> > /27 routes into the table on r1 but with no joy.
> >
> > Look at this form debug ip igrp trans
> >
> > 04:49:59: IGRP: sending update to 255.255.255.255 via Tunnel0
> > (172.168.11.1)
> > 04:49:59:       subnet 172.168.10.32, metric=6882
> >
> > So the route appears to be advertised out of tunnel0 towards r1 as
> you
> > would
> > expect , because the mask is the same.
> > However the route never appears in the routing table on r1 although
> it
> > has
> > an interface using a /27 ( tunnel )
> > You do not see r1 receiving the /27 route
> >
> >
> > I would like to hear your thoughts as I cannot think of another way
> to
> > get
> > around this one.
> >
> > Best regards
> > Richard Botham




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