I just wanted to chime in and say as a purchaser of Marcs labs they are worth it and an excellent tool. I admit being skeptical before I decided to pay for the labs, but I reviewed the archives, asked the opinion of others in this mailing list, and when I received the labs I was very happy with the product.
While I do not feel Marc should really have needed to try and justify himself here his activity in this mailing list and response shows you something about the company and the people behind it. I am also glad to hear about revisions for the new one day format and look forward with to this material with anticipation. Because of their lab workbooks (and close physical proximity) I look forward to sitting down for one of the classes held my Marc's company in the near future. -- Kevin Welch -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Marc Russell Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 1:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ccbootcamp labs [7:29512] Not even sure how to respond in a politically correct manner to a post such as this, but I will try my best. I must say that if someone is going to publicly slam a company as a "scam" it would carry more weight if they used a real e-mail address and if it came from an individual that has actually posted on Groupstudy before. However, I need to be fair and will just assume that this user may have just setup a new e-mail account wrong and did not intentionally try to hide behind a fake e-mail address for their first post on Groupstudy. Yes, we have fallen behind in creating new labs, as we have been busy creating new labs and setting up hardware for our Security CCIE products that we are now just releasing. We have also been busy with several other new products and upgrades that will become available next year. Expect to see lab 21 for our R&S lab subscription in the next few weeks. Our subscription product started with 7 labs and we have added 14 new labs since then with another on the way very soon. In addition, our practice labs 1-20 are in the process of being upgraded to the new 1-day format, removing old content on labs 1-14, and fixing all known errors. All new labs will follow this format as they are released. This upgrade will be offered as a complete set, when they are all complete. Keep in mind that the 1-day or 2-day format issue is really a non-issue. The content for both lab formats is the same. Now you just have your lab cabled for you with same basic configs started and less time to work with. Your preparation and knowledge for both exam types is exactly the same. The only minor difference is the requirement for increased speed as you have less time and the lack of a dedicated troubleshooting section. Subscription customers will receive all updates and new labs as they are released for free except for the cost of delivery. I do agree with part of your post. CCIE candidates should use Groupstudy's open forum to exchange study ideas, strategies, labs, info, etc. I have always recommended that all CCIE candidates join Paul's CCIE mailing list, as it is a great resource. I have never recommended that a CCIE candidate use our lab material as their only resource for preparation as any topic is fair game on the lab exam and you may have some weak areas that need more practice. However, as our reviews at (http://www.ccbootcamp.com/customer_reviews.htm) show many individuals have had great success working our company with many passing on their pass attempt. The road to CCIE is very difficult and most individuals will have to use a variety of resources to be successful. Did I create my company to make a buck? Heck yes. I didn't setup a training room, 3800 sq. feet of office space, 5 remote racks, 6 classroom racks, a development rack, hire people, etc. just for fun. There are many companies that offer training services to help individuals to get certified in a variety of computer technologies from a range of different manufacturers. We are no different. Marc Russell CEO Network Learning, Inc. 1677 W. Hamlin Rochester Hills, MI 48309 Ph# 248-299-8114 www.ccbootcamp.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ""Jason"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I was looking in to purchasing the labs from ccbootcamp, but correct me > if I am wrong, they look outdated and full of annoying little errors. > Ccbootcamp says that > it is a subscription but how many have they sent out in the last 3 > months? Zero! Or even the last six months. One! This just looks to be > a big scam! These guys > wouldn't last a minute if there was some real competition, who made > worth while labs. What a joke. Maybe, since we are all in this > together, we could collectively make > some labs and share them among the group. I will release some of the > ones I have been working on for FREE after I refine them. I say forget > ccbootcamp. They > just want to make a buck. Its time this group got some quality labs with > out having to spend even more money! > > -jason > Pissed off individuale, tired of people making a buck of OUR quest for > the CCIE Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=29628&t=29512 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
