I bought Solution Labs and CCBootcamp labs when I was studying.  I also did
the Fatkid labs since they are free.  I liked dealing with Marc and Brad at
CCBootcamp so much that I now do some work with them.  I paid for their labs
and countless hours on their racks (with my own personal savings) and it was
well worth it.  If it wasn't worth it I certainly wouldn't still be working
with them.

All this hype about the new 1-day format is nonsense.  The preparation
difference is minimal.  If you use any online rack it will already be
cabled.  The terminal server will probably already be configured too.  So
that only leaves IP addressing which should be a non-issue.  If you need
labs that already have IP addresses on them you're in trouble.  The topics
have not changed.  Instead of taking an hour or so to do a drawing, terminal
server, cabling, and IP addressing they immediately have the lab start with
more complex configuration topics.  The biggest change in my opinion is
removing troubleshooting.  None of the practice labs that I've seen
incorporate a troubleshooting lab so I don't see much difference.

What you should be asking is have they updated the labs to remove the old
topics (appletalk, DECNET, ATM LANE, etc).  I wasn't too happy seeing those
topics in the labs when I started them last year.  But, they are currently
removing all those topics and updating the labs to the 1-day format since
people seem to think that having their IP addresses ahead of time is
important.  I believe they aren't quite done with updating all the labs but
they are coming along.  Marc and Brad should comment on that.  As far as the
real exam I think some of the labs are comparable in difficulty.  Since they
try and write labs that cover as many tricks as they can think of there is
bound to be some topics that are the same.

John Kaberna
CCIE #7146
NETCG Inc.
www.netcginc.com
(415) 750-3800

Instructor for CCBootcamp 5-day class www.ccbootcamp.com
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""Pham, James""  wrote in message
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> Hi John,
>
> Thanks for your advice. Although I don't plan to fail the first time, but
if
> I fail, I would not feel so bad, right? I'm trying to work out a deal for
> 200-hour rack rental. I'm not quite sure if CCBootcamp labs scenarios are
> updated enough to reflect the recent change of the 1-day lab and flexible
> enough to use on a non-CCBootcamp lab. I would appreciate if anyone who
has
> used CCBootcamp lab scenarios and sit on the real 1-day CCIE lab can give
> some insight on this. How good and close are they compare to the real lab?
I
> don't think this is violating the NDA, right? Does it worth the money?
>
> Thanks,
>
> James
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Kaberna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 10:48 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: NetworkForce.com CCIE Lab Scenario [7:29676]
>
>
> Never even heard of them.  Why not just do the CCBootcamp labs?  It's only
> $650.  I didn't want to spend 5k on a class either so I can't say that I
> blame you.  Although I've felt like if I went to one of those classes I
> probably would have passed the first or second time instead of the third
> time.
>
> John Kaberna
> CCIE #7146
> www.netcginc.com
> (415) 750-3800
>
> __________________
> CCIE Security Training
> www.netcginc.com/training.htm
>
>
> ""Pham, James""  wrote in message
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> > Hi,
> >
> > It's time to put the theory into practice and pay my dues on the journey
> to
> > CCIE!  I'm shopping around for the good guys that offer good CCIE Lab
> > scenarios and lab rental at a reasonable rate. I think it would work
> better
> > if I buy the CCIE lab scenarios that were designed for their rack. Had
> > anyone ever used the NetworkForce CCIE Lab scenarios and their lab.  How
> > good are they?  Any advices, comments on how to prepare for the real
CCIE
> > Lab. I don't have the luxury to pay $5,000 for the CCbootcamp class!
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > James




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