The problem basically lies in the fact that directly trying to route with
non-internet routable ip addresses.
How does the gateway (.254) no where to send the 192.168.x.x traffic; even
if the 192.168.x.x network was routable in the internet?  You aren't running
any routing protocol to your providers router.
Now if you could take a static address that your dsl provider gave you and
use that to NAT with, then you'd be in business.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ole Drews Jensen" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 8:41 PM
Subject: RE: can't ping an address from anywhere but the router itself
[7:30510]


> First of all John, I don't believe this is a very good way of doing this,
> because you are actually running two different networks on the same LAN:
> 192.168.0.0/24 and 250.100.100.238/8.
>
> Anyway, I believe the problem lies in that the DSL GATEWAY has a default
> gateway that points to PacBell, so when it receives a ping echo from your
> workstation on network 192.168.0.0/24, it see's that it's not on it's own
> network, and sends the ping reply to its default gateway, and your
> workstation never receives the reply.
>
> In order for ping to work, the traffic must be able to travel both
> directions.
>
> I don't know what kind of DSL gateway you have, but if you can tell it to
> route traffic destined for network 192.168.0.0/24 to the router
> (250.100.100.238), it should work, because the echo reply would then find
> its way back to the workstation you're pinging from.
>
> Hth,
>
> Ole
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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>  Systems Network Manager
>  CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I
>  RWR Enterprises, Inc.
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Mairs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 4:27 PM
> To: Ole Drews Jensen
> Subject: RE: can't ping an address from anywhere but the router itself
> [7:30328]
>
>
> Im sorry, you're right, my explanation was not very
> clear. the inside network is 192.168.0.0/24 and all
> devices on that network are hosts. the addresses for
> the list you have below is. lets say
>
> 250.100.100.254/24 (DSL gateway)
> 250.100.100.238/24 (Static IP assigned to me from
> pacbell assigned to e0 to)
> 250.100.100.230/24 (for fun my printer)
>
> I can, from any host on the 192.168.0.0/24 (inside
> network [192.168.0.1 e0 secondary) successfully ping
> .238 and .230 but not .254
>
> from the router I can successfully ping everything
> including the gateway (.254).
>
> if I can ping .238 and the printer .230 from the
> inside network (which means that the 2501 is resolving
> or routing those addresses on the outside network) I
> don't understand why .254 in unreachable (times out)
>
> here is the config
>
> Router3#show conf
> using 886 pit pf 32762 bytes
> !
> version 11.2
> no service password-encryption
> no service udp-small-servers
> no service udp-small-servers
> !
> hostname Router3
> !
> enable secret 5 $1$llkfflkaiey.ddfakdjfadlkjrlll
> enable password cisco
> !
> no ip domain-lookup
> !
> interface ethernet0
>  ip address 192.168.0.1 255.255.255.0 secondary
>  ip address 250.100.100.238 255.255.255.0
>  no mop enabled
> !
> interface Serial0
>  no ip address
> !
> interface Serial1
>  no ip address
> !
> ip classless
> ip route 192.168.0.0 255.255.255.0 250.100.100.254
> !
> banner login ^C
> What in the hell do YOU want?
>
> ^C
> banner motd ^C
> By the way...how do you say "Elway" in pig latin?
>
> ^C
> !
> line con 0
> line aux 0
> line vty 0 4
>  password cisco
>  login
> !
> end
>
> Router3#
>
> --- Ole Drews Jensen  wrote:
> > Maybe it's just me, but I'm a little confused here.
> >
> > As far as I can read on your e-mail, you have the
> > following:
> >
> > On network 192.168.0.0 / 24
> >
> > 192.168.0.230 Printer
> > 192.168.0.238 Router
> > 192.168.0.254 Gateway
> >
> > If you ping from the inside network to any of the
> > three devices (above), the
> > router should not route anything, because you're
> > pinging to the same network
> > you're on.
> >
> > I am not sure how exactly your whole setup is, but
> > you should check that the
> > subnet mask is / 24 (or 255.255.255.0) on all
> > devices on the 192.168.0.0
> > network.
> >
> > Send the config from the router and gateway, plus a
> > description on how all
> > these things are connected.
> >
> > Hth,
> >
> > Ole
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >  Ole Drews Jensen
> >  Systems Network Manager
> >  CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I
> >  RWR Enterprises, Inc.
> >  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >  http://www.RouterChief.com
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >  NEED A JOB ???
> >  http://www.oledrews.com/job
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Mairs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:57 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: can't ping an address from anywhere but the
> > router itself
> > [7:30316]
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have DSL with a static IP address/24. the gateway
> > address is x.x.x.254 and the static IP/24 address
> > that
> > I have assigned the router is x.x.x.238. for fun I
> > assigned x.x.x.230 to my printer.
> >
> > all addresses on the inside network are
> > 192.168.0.x/24.
> >
> > I can ping x.x.x.238 and x.x.x.230 but not x.x.x.254
> > from the inside network.
> >
> > I can ping x.x.x.254 from the router (2501 with
> > secondary ethernet)
> >
> > I can't understand why the router will route to the
> > printer (x.x.x.230) but not the gateway (x.x.x.254)
> >
> > I am confused about my router's prejudicial ways.
> >
> > any thoughts
> >
> > =====
> > John L. Mairs
> >
> > __________________________________________________
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>
>
> =====
> John L. Mairs
>
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