Let he who has never done something stupid while learning this stuff cast the first stone ;->
""Brian Whalen"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > How inept does a netadmin have to be to block his own servers. If Im that > guys boss, he is so fired.. > > Brian "Sonic" Whalen > Success = Preparation + Opportunity > > > On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, John Allhiser wrote: > > > This discussion reminds me of a popular quote I see all the time on another > > forum: "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral > > problems." > > --attributed to Ed Crowley, Compaq Technical Consultant > > > > A friend of mine worked for a company that had a problem with a certain > > spammer. > > They blocked the IP address of the offending emailer at the gateway, and to > > their utter astonishment, the pernicious perpetrator changed its IP. The > > spam > > continued to flow. > > Eventually, after about 9 IPs were entered into the "deny" access-list, the > > legitmate email started having problems (the spammer seemed to have been > > stopped).+ > > > > Long story, short: The spammer was using the company's ISP's mail relay > host > > addresses. > > By shutting down those IPs, they effectively shut down their Intenet mail > > service. > > > > --John > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Gaz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 1:56 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: How to block MSN, and others. [7:31057] > > > > > > I suppose it comes down to they type of company/employees. I'm more used to > > companies that leave things fairly open for employees, and demand (rather > > than expect) that the employee be responsible with it. > > Employees will understand that monitoring needs to be done at times and > > offenders be dealt with. > > "Firm and fair" sometimes works better than "beat me if you can". Not > always > > though, so admittedly it's horses for courses. > > > > Gaz > > > > ""Mike Sweeney"" wrote in message > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > Let me put something into perspective here. It was said earlier about why > > > give access then block it. Why indeed... the why is for BUSINESS > reasons.. > > > not day trading, not stock tickers, not chatting for hours(documented) > > with > > > friends at the expense of work, viruses coming in on Hotmail attachments > > > that bypass the clamped down exchange server and so on. > > > > > > The internet is given to employees for business reasons with the > > expectation > > > that the employee will be responsible with it. Will there be personal > > use.. > > > of course.. just like the phone. Why limit certain things? gee.. the > > company > > > pays for a T1, they have 4,000 users, 100 decide to watch a Victoria > > Secret > > > webcast at 300Kbps.. see the problem? This not theorical.. this really > > > happened to one of my clients and the webcastusers/readaudio users > managed > > > to max out the T during working hours. > > > > > > The courts have already decided for good or bad that email is company > > > property and they can do what they wish with it. I would imagine that web > > > access falls under the same rules as it's a company building, desk, PC(or > > > Mac), servers, connection and so on. > > > > > > My opinion > > > > > > MikeS Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=31244&t=31057 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
