>At 02:50 AM 1/9/02, Madisa Ramagoffu wrote:
>>I have this question for you pls help
>>
>>In a token ring environment a sender send a packet to a destination
>>with the ff in a packet
>
>Where is FF in the packet? That's just one byte. Is it a one-byte field
>somewhere? In decimal, it's 255. Where might that appear? Or do you mean
>that the Destination Address is all FFs. The Destination Address is 48
>bits. Each numeral represents one nibble (4 bits). So a Destination Address
>of broadcast is:
>
>FF FF FF FF FF FF
>
>You will see many books that get this wrong and don't put enough FFs.

So you'd give such books a grade of F?

>
>
>>Everything specified excerpt the dsap
>>DSAP ????
>>da specified
>>sa  specified
>>SSAP specified
>>
>
>The recipient wouldn't be able to figure out that the DSAP was missing. The
>bytes are processed serially. The first byte that follows Source Address
>(or Routing Info, if present) would be considered the DSAP even if the
>source somehow forgot to actually insert a DSAP.
>
>DSAP values could be:
>
>00 This is a null SAP, but I think it does have meaning in SNA
>FF Broadcast. This means go to all processes on the recipient device.
>42 BPDU
>06 IP
>F0 NetBIOS
>E0 IPX
>AA SNAP
>
>SNA also uses 04, 05, 08, and 0C
>
>
>
>>The question . what will happen to the packet if the DASP is not
>>specified????
>
>It can't not be specified from the recipient's viewpoint. The frame could
>be just a MAC frame used for Token Ring processing rather than to carry
>upper-layer data. In that case, MAC data would follow the Source Address,
>rather than a DSAP.
>
>The first two bits of the Frame Control byte specify whether the frame is a
>MAC (overhead) frame or upper-layer data carried in LLC.
>
>00 MAC
>01 LLC
>
>>Is the packet going to be copied ?
>
>If you are talking about the setting of the Frame Copied bits, this happens
>at the MAC layer (not the LLC layer). If a device recognizes that the frame
>is for it, it sets the Address Recognized bits. It also sets the Frame
>Copied bits unless it doesn't have enough buffer space to actually copy the
>frame. (You may want to look into the special case of a bridge and whether
>it should set the Address Recognized and Frame Copied when forwarding a
>frame).
>
>>Is the packet going to be dropped ?
>>Will it wait for the next packet or request a retransmit??
>
>It certainly won't request a retransmit. This is a LAN data-link-layer
>we're talking about.
>
>>What about the A C bit ?
>
>There's no such thing. You're probably thinking of the Address Recognized
>or the Frame Copied bits, or maybe the Access Control byte at the beginning
>of the frame.
>
>
>>Pls  send me any information or links I can read if you have .
>
>See IEEE 802.5. It's available here: http://standards.ieee.org/getieee802/
>
>Also, there's some white paper that everyone always recommends by Rossi.
>It's on Token Ring. Search the archives or ask the group.
>
>You should probably wait until Cisco finally takes Token Ring off the CCIE
>tests. What's the point in learning all this? It's not going to help you be
>a better network engineer!? ;-) Instead focus on general principles. What
>is a Destination Address? What is its format? What is a DSAP? What is its
>format? What is its purpose? What is LLC? How does a recipient process a
>received frame? ETC.
>
>Good luck!
>
>Priscilla
>________________________
>
>Priscilla Oppenheimer
>http://www.priscilla.com




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