Save yourself  all the expense of training exams books etc....just get
convicted
Cisco should bring in a new cert  CCCNP cisco certified convict network pro

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steven A. Ridder" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: MAJOR OT: Free CCNPtraining for convicts [7:34039]


> Perhaps they should start with the CCNA????
>
> ""steve skinner""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > guys,
> >
> > my boss has just told me that cisco are trailing a few prisons where
they
> > are offering free CCNP training to convicts....
> >
> > man does that just bite the buscuit.....
> >
> > i worked long and hard to pay for my exams.....get some work experience
> > ....and at my expence (bieng a tax payer)i am funding a convict to learn
> > about cisco.....
> >
> > i know about re-abilitation.....but it is just a bit sick that i as an
> > individual,could
> >
> > a) been robbed by this man ... my house is trashed and my insurence goes
> up
> > (i pay )
> > b) funding him in prison to learn Cisco (i pay)
> > c) comes out of prison and de-vaules a cert becuse he has no experience
(i
> > pay)
> >
> >
> > does cisco want to have a "useless" cert system....(except ofcourse the
> > CCIE)....because the more people who BLANTENTLY DONT have any experience
> > witht these certs ...the less they mean...
> >
> >
> > i`m  sorry to rant....but sometimes i wish company`s would consider
there
> > future..
> >
> > FACT (from Cisco) there will always be more jobs for NA/NP than IE`s
> >
> > 1)i get exams to be employable...
> > 2)in order to get these exams i push the company`s kit ..
> >
> > i have recently installed some 4000`s over another companies kit,even
> > thought the other kit is more than capable of doing the job..because i
get
> a
> > side benefit of learning about the equipment and increasing my CV value
> > ....
> >
> > 3)if i am working at a company and i dont want a cisco cert because it
is
> > worthless..why would i push that companies products..
> >
> > i would simply push another company`s products to get my certs in the
> there
> > equipment ,to keep my employability....
> >
> > 4) cisco dont sell as much equipment ....
> > 5) certs become even more worthless..
> > 6) cisco sells even less equipment ....as no-one is trained anymore
> > 7) cisco becomes Novell....(my appologies to all novell staff)...
> >
> > a little for-thought is all that required...
> >
> > as my boss says...
> >
> > " one of my main reson for buying kit is the amount of tech staff
> availible
> > to install/fix the kit...if there`s no staff there no kit"
> >
> > in a job market that is already depressed that last thing that is needed
> is
> > a flood of Certified but unexperienced people on the market..
> >
> > the it industry is like no other ,in that fact that we have to
CONSTANTLY
> > update our skills ...that takes time,money and personal
> > sacrfise....something i dont think cisco is at all concernd with...
> >
> > ahh welll.....
> >
> > no chance of a "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" list starting any time soon...??
> >
> > Sorry for the downer....
> >
> > steve
> >
> >
> >
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