>Tnx a lot Scott.
>
>I'm still not there. The more I think about it, the more I get confused. I
>only have more questions.
>You remark about the AS# cleared up some things though. Obviously the
>AS-path attribute is the only means by which BGP is able to tell where a
>routing update contains a loop, that is going thru different AS systems.
>
>One thing you write is that "IBGP neighbors will not
>propagate routes to each other as a matter of loop protection".
>Further on in your example you state that "R1 will forward it's routes to
>R2. R2 will forward it's routes to R3".
>
>So I am confused between the difference between "propagate" (not done) and
>"forwarding" (done).

Propagation refers to control information, like routing data packets.
Forwarding refers to data information -- rout_ed_ rather than rout_ing_.

>
>If a router, running EBGP on one interface and IBGP on another, has learned
>an external route (EBGP out of its AS), it will forward this route to all
>IBGP peers, doesn't it?
>And since IBGP peers are either fully meshed or clustered, each IBGP route
>will learn the EBGP external route directly, not via another IBGP peers, but
>directly from the router running EBGP and IBGP, don't they?

yes, unless they get it from a reflector or a hierarchy of reflectors.

>
>Exactly what internal routers will IBGP peers "forward" to each other
>except EGBP routes?
>Only IGP routes?

IGP and BGP propagate independently.

>
>In this case, IBGP learned routes will not be propagated unless they are
>learned by IGP as well, aren't they? So if each router already has learned
>the route(s) by IGP, why bother with learning them from IBGP anyway?

eBGP routes usually are not propagated in the IGP.  But let's say the 
router learns a route from iBGP, but also speaks eBGP to an external 
router. If it doesn't learn it through iBGP, how does it know that is 
a route to be advertised/propagated externally, rather than a purely 
internal (IGP) route?

>
>
>Sorry about hasseling you like this. I did reread the BSCN book, but it
>didn't make thing clearer, because it mostly state "what is the case",
>rather then "why it is the case".
>
>  Joep,
>   (CCNA, CCDA)
>
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>
>BTW: The notion of BGP split horizon, I think I got this one from the BSCN
>book. BGP split horizon implies that those routes that are learned via IBGP
>are not propagated to other IBGP peers, meaning you will need to have a
>full-mesh IBGP.




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