Inline ""Tshon"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > guys should keep in mind: > > No there is no CCIE Q or written cert. Cisco has identified you as > a lab candidate. This applies > to everyone on the planet. You have been invited to take the lab, > if you pass the written and after > that date you are still a CCIE candidate just like everyone elso on > the planet. > Just because you are a CCNP w/a specialization or not..... you are > not invited! > > Next there is the financial aspect for corporations (the smart one). > CCIE's are expensive salaries are easily > $120,000/yr plus.
Maybe in 1999. Not anymore. > But, if I can get a guy just before he passes lab > but after he has passed his written, I know > that he is trying and his knowledge will continue to increase. I > then close to lab time have a CCIE on staff, > working for pennies. And I have first crack at a offer. If he passes, which is no sure thing. > > So, thanks to the demand for CCIE's the CCIE written as you have > been identified has had a little weight, > not taking into account the present economy. Sure, but I think to be more relevant you do indeed have to take account of the present economy. > > Now there have been job posting for CCIE written, candidates, > Qualification exam people. And if you feel > confident enough to wear that title put what they are looking for on > the resume. > > Now CCNP.... whatevers have not been identified as such by anyone on > the planet. > > Finally it comes down to this.... "Do you have a number behind those > letters?" > > nrf wrote: > > >Cisco has made it clear that passing the written -CCIE exam does not get you > >a certificate in itself. Only by passing both the written and the lab do > >you obtain a cert. I don't know how it came to be acceptable that people > >can claim a certificate that doesn't exist. > > > >While you might say that it's not really a big deal - after all, the written > >is an exam, so it 'sort-of' is like a cert, so what's the harm in pretending > >that it's another cert? Well, the real problem is that if people are > >allowed to make up a "CCIE-Q" cert that doesn't exist, then what's to stop > >them from making up other qualifications that don't exist? It's the classic > >slippery slope. For example, if the CCIE-Q becomes an accepted pseudo-cert, > >then later somebody will inevitably say they have a "CCIE-A", because they > >(A)ttempted the written (but didn't pass). Or a "CCIE-F" for somebody > >who's never even seen a router in his life, but has heard about the CCIE > >program and is thinking about doing it in the (F)uture. Or heck, how about > >a Bachelor's Degree-(F) for somebody who's never stepped into a classroom in > >his life, but might do it in the future. I don't know about you, but I hold > >a Ph.D-(F), an MBA-(F), a Law-degree-(F), and a Medical-degree-(F), all > >from Harvard. > > > > > > > > > >""Michael J. Doherty"" wrote in message > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > >>It seems to be common these days to use that abbreviation to mean that the > >>individual has taken, and passed, the Written exam, but not yet > >>challenged/passed the Lab. > >> > >>As for me, personally, when I get to that point, I do not plan on > >>advertising it in this manner. If it comes up in an interview question, I > >>would answer it. But, I refuse to put any certification on my resume > >> > >until > > > >>I can honestly claim the entire title. > >> > >> > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: "Brian Zeitz" > >>To: > >>Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:54 PM > >>Subject: CCIE Question [7:36243] > >> > >> > >>>I saw a resume with "CCIE (Q)" after their name, what is the Q mean? > >>> > >>_________________________________________________________ > >>Do You Yahoo!? > >>Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36282&t=36243 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
