As you know with MP3, you won't really make much money because it's so
easily copy-able.  You'd be on Napster, Morpheus, WinMX in no time.  If you
don't mind the piracy, I think it would be a great idea!

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""Audy Bautista""  wrote in message
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> I just heard Priscilla's audio training on WAN Troubleshooting and I think
> it's great.  I spent the time listening to the audio file while organizing
> my desk at work; very convenient!!.  I'd definitely pay for audio training
> if it was available.
>
> Priscilla, do you have any other audio training files besides WAN
> Troubleshooting?
>
>
> ""John Neiberger""  wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED].;
> > I know that I like this sort of product and I wish I'd had more of this
> > sort of thing available when I first started out in this field.  For
> > certain types of learners, hearing someone discuss the topic allows it
> > to sink in better than reading alone.  I'm definitely that type of
> > learner.
> >
> > One problem I've seen with some audio-based training is the pricing.
> > IMO, they are often priced too high.  While audio training is quite nice
> > to have, it's not necessarily as portable as books, for instance,
> > although that is changing quickly.  Pretty soon everyone will have a
> > portable MP3 player and/or CD burners and they'd easily be able to go
> > mobile instead of sitting glued in front of their PCs.
> >
> > Regards,
> > John
> >
> > >>> "Priscilla Oppenheimer"  3/1/02 1:15:08 PM
> > >>>
> > Speaking of sample rates, I am playing with the idea of offering audio
> >
> > training using MP3 files. I have prepared such a training on WAN
> > Troubleshooting. I'd love to get some feedback. This audio training
> > will
> > help people studying for the Support test especially. It's 40 minutes.
> > This
> > means the file is huge, so don't try this at home on a modem line. The
> > file
> > is available for download here:
> >
> > http://www.troubleshootingnetworks.com/audio.html
> >
> > Please send me some feedback. Would you find such a product line
> > helpful?
> > Would you pay for MP3 audio training files?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Priscilla Oppenheimer
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > At 03:32 PM 2/27/02, John Neiberger wrote:
> > >Yes, this was very distracting!  :-)  I didn't get any studying done
> > at
> > >all last night!  Between checking and answering email, looking for
> > >Clannad MP3s, reading about the Gaelic language just for fun, and
> > >looking up telecom stuff it's a wonder I even powered up a router.  I
> > >was able to boot up six routers, erase their configs, and recable
> > them
> > >in preparation for a lab scenario tonight.  Not bad for three hours
> > >work.  heh heh...
> > >
> > >Thanks,
> > >John
> > >
> > > >>> "Priscilla Oppenheimer"  2/27/02 3:04:13 PM
> > > >>>
> > >Female opera singers probably hate it when people ask them to sing
> > over
> > >the
> > >phone!?
> > >
> > >OK, have we distracted you enough, John? ;-) Seriously, I think this
> > >was a
> > >great discussion. Thanks to everyone who contributed.
> > >
> > >Priscilla
> > >
> > >At 10:58 AM 2/27/02, David L. Blair wrote:
> > > > > John Neiberger wrote:
> > > > > What I'm trying to find out is why the original 4KHz limit on
> > > > > voice calls was put into place.  It sounds like it was simply
> > > > > an arbitrary decision.  4KHz is sufficient for a telephone call
> > > > > and to provide clear calls that included higher frequencies
> > > > > might have added some technical complexities, perhaps.
> > > > >
> > > > > They also added a high-pass filter around 400Hz since most
> > > > > telephones can't reproduce low frequencies well and it also
> > > > > filters out some harmonics of 50-60Hz hum that might show up
> > > > > from time to time.  That is concrete reason for including a
> > > > > high-pass filter and I wondered if there was a concrete
> > > > > technical reason for including the 4KHz low-pass filter. From
> > > > > the sounds of it there really isn't a technical issue, 4K is
> > > > > just a nice round number.  :-)
> > > >
> > > >I used three sources to answer John's query: "Voice over IP
> > >Fundamentals",
> > > >"Cisco Voice over Frame Relay, ATM, and IP", and Integrating Voice
> > and
> > >Data
> > > >Networks".  These are great books for anyone wanting to know more
> > >about
> > > >voice technologies.
> > > >
> > > >Interesting Facts and Ideas I came across:
> > > >
> > > >1) Human hearing is in the range of 200 Hz to 20,000 Hz
> > > >
> > > >2) Human speech is in the range of 250 Hz to 10,000 Hz. Most of the
> > > >information comes from the middle frequencies. According to
> > Nyquist,
> > >"Human
> > > >voice contains sounds that are more often Middle-pitched
> > frequencies
> > >than
> > > >either High or Low pitched frequencies.
> > > >
> > > >3) Frequencies greater than 4,000 Hz are filter out to limit
> > >crosstalk.
> > > >
> > > >4) During the Analog to Digital conversion voice samples are put
> > >though a
> > > >process called Quantization.  Quantization is the process of
> > rounding
> > > >sampled values to the nearest predefined discreet value. Pulse Code
> > > >Modulation (PCM) is a Quantization process. PCM is also used to
> > >achieve 12
> > > >to 13 bits of voice information in 8 bit words. Two commonly used
> > >PCM's are:
> > > >mu-law (North America), and a-law (Europe). What you hear is not
> > >someone's
> > > >voice, but a representation of their voice.
> > > >
> > > >5) Noise is a major issue when talking about voice quality.  Noise
> > is
> > > >constant problem for Analog signals.  What is signal and what is
> > >Noise?
> > > >When a Analog signal is amplified so is the Noise, which in turn
> > makes
> > >the
> > > >quality of Analog calls worst as the distance increases.  Digital
> > >Calls are
> > > >less suitable to Noise than Analog calls.
> > > >
> > > >6) Delay is a major issue when talking about conversation flow for
> > >two
> > > >reasons: 1) For a conversation to flow normally, the delay is
> > >receiving the
> > > >voice information must be less than 250ms.  When the delay is more
> > >than
> > > >250ms, the human receiving the voice message will start to talk
> > >thinking the
> > > >human sending the voice message is at a breaking point in the
> > >conversation,
> > > >i.e.. both people are talking at the same time similar to a
> > collision
> > >in
> > > >Ethernet.  Delay is also important in how the voice packets are
> > >filled
> > > >during the Analog to Digital conversion.  That is why ATM (ATM cell
> > is
> > >53
> > > >octets, 5 octets are header and 48 octets are payload) is a good
> > >method for
> > > >transporting voice packets because the delay to fill the payload
> > >section is
> > > >smaller than with other cell/packet types.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Answer: It does indeed seem that the 4,000 Hz mark was arbitrary in
> > >nature;
> > > >3,500 Hz or 5,000 Hz would work also.  It is a "nice round" number
> > to
> > >work
> > > >with.  Simplies any math work.  Middle frequencies carry the bulk
> > of
> > >the
> > > >information and Human speech upper limit is 10,000 Hz amd 4,000 is
> > >near the
> > > >middle. The low filter is also to reduce the frequencies that carry
> > >less
> > > >information.
> > > >
> > > >Hope this helps.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >"Through Complexity there is Simplicity,
> > > >                                Through Simplicity there is
> > >Complexity"
> > > >
> > > >David L. Blair - CCNP, CCNA, MCSE, CBE, A+, 3Wizard
> > >________________________
> > >
> > >Priscilla Oppenheimer
> > >http://www.priscilla.com
> > ________________________
> >
> > Priscilla Oppenheimer
> > http://www.priscilla.com




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