OK I read into the message a little more than I should have. But the point still remains that the lawyers bothered you without researching the issue.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard C. Berkowitz" To: Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 3:20 PM Subject: Re: no flames -- please (about NDA) [7:37796] > >Howard, this is *almost* hilarious, they tried to sue you on something that > >they stole from you? > > I wouldn't go so far as to say "sue" or "stole." As far as I was > concerned, the material was public domain. The lawyer demanded it be > removed, but didn't actually threaten suit. > > Lots of nasty legal letters, when you are in the right, can be > handled with a confident "prove your point and we'll take you > seriously." > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Howard C. Berkowitz" > >To: > >Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 1:16 PM > >Subject: Re: no flames -- please (about NDA) [7:37796] > > > > > >> First, THANK YOU for the image of MIB's as non-SNMP. It has given me > >> an occasional giggle since I read it, which was especially helpful in > >> the emergency room last night (when you are cutting chain, do NOT > >> have a finger between the handles of the bolt cutters). > >> > >> But this is one of the reasons I personally don't take the CCIE > >> lab--there's no way to accuse me of disclosing a question I've never > >> seen. That doesn't preclude me from having CCIE's, or at least > >> people who have taken the lab, review scenarios before they go live, > >> and being very open to feedback once they are public. > >> > >> I have dealt with Cisco lawyers in a publishing context, and they > >> definitely can be annoying. Of course, in that context, one can push > >> back with a knowledge of case law on intellectual property. One of > >> their complaints was that I published a graphic that was in a Cisco > >> course--which turned out to be something I originally wrote, on which > >> Cisco had no IPR, and I put into the Cisco University seminar as > >> labeled supplemental material. It was a good slide and propagated > >> into several Cisco courses, which was the first place the lawyer saw > >> it. > >> > >> > >> > >> >Hello, > >> > > >> > > >> >Please, don't over-interpret this email. > >> >I really would appreciate your opinion, > >> >I am not trying to be sarcastic, assertive or whatever. > >> > > >> > > >> >I blow my lab approximatelly 2 weeks ago. > >> > > >> >Since then, I have seen at least 3 or 4 questions taken > >> >varbatim from my scenario, posted to this group. > >> > > >> >Because some of those question confused me, I would like > >> >to discuss generic technology behind them on this forum. > >> > > >> >On the other hand, even participating in the thread started > >> >as verbatim copy of original CCIE LAB makes me feel, well, > >> >unconfortable, because I don't want to be accused of violation of NDA. > >> >I don't want to be even remotly associated with such possible > >> >accusition, by merely participating in those threads. > >> > > >> >But I still want to discuss with someone some issues, which > >> >IMHO are at least not clear, (or to be frank -- CCO has contradictory > >> >examples about them) without taking a risk of steping on the thin ice > >> >of NDA violation. > >> > > >> >Also, as I can tell that at least 4 threads are about problems > >> >taken verbatim from MY scenario, how many otheres threads are > >> >verbatim copies of OTHER scenarios? > >> > > >> >I felt much more confortable and "free" to be active here before > >> >my actual exam..... Should I look for those cool flashlights, > >> >used by MIBs (not SNMP :-) to eradicate my memory about my scenario ? > >> > > >> >Any thoughts? > >> > > >> >Maybe someone from cisco will voice their opinon? > >> > > >> >Thanks, > >> > > >> >Przemek > >> >_________________________________________________________________ > >> >Commercial lab list: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/commercial.html > >> >Please discuss commercial lab solutions on this list. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37811&t=37796 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
