Mark,

My original question that I sent to the group somehow got lost.  Ole was 
kind enough to respond to a direct query regarding to some fun I am having 
with installing a Pix (501) for the first time.  My firewall background is 
SonicWall and Watchguard, both are very simple in configuration and work 
directly out of the box.

I was under the impression it was pretty much plug and play, so I decided to 
test it by putting it between my PC and the rest of the LAN.  However, after 
the initial setup, the Pix passed no information through it.  So I went to a 
ping to start the troubleshooting.  The curious (to me) issue was that from 
the console or the PDM of the Pix I can ping network addresses on both sides 
of the Pix.  From the inside of the Pix, I cannot ping (or browse the web) 
through the Pix.  I cannot even ping the outside interface of the Pix from 
the inside interface.  The specific question is this ... is additional 
configuration of the Pix required to permit access from the inside interface 
to the outside interface and beyond?

To expand on the topic you and Ole are discussing, is the use of the 
conduits (or access-lists) required for each and every type of service I 
want to send from the inside to the outside?  I have no problem researching 
the commands to learn how it is done, I just want to make certain I am on 
the right path.

Thanks,

Justin


From: "Mark Odette II" 
Reply-To: "Mark Odette II" 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Question on PIX 501 [7:38246]
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 12:45:59 -0500

Forgive me for not reading the book yet, as I've been quite busy too....
... but, I have a question in regards to the config line you gave.

I've used the PDM so far to most of the configuration of my PIX, and it
creates access-lists rather than conduits.  I know from others I've talked
with, that Cisco is moving from conduits to access-lists on the PIX
configs... this is the question

I configure to allow ICMP any(Outside) any(Inside) = Echo Reply
                           ICMP any(Outside) any(Inside) = Time Exceeded
                           ICMP any(Outside) any(Inside) = Unreachable

Does this do the same thing as what you were saying about "conduit permit
any any X"??

I think it does, but just want to make sure that I haven't opened up ICMP
completely with it being initiated from the outside.

Thanks!
Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Ole Drews Jensen
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 10:42 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Question on PIX 501 [7:38246]


Hi Justin,

When you ping, you use the ICMP protocol.

When A pings B, A sends ICMP echo-request (number 8) to B, and B sends ICMP
echo-reply (number 0) back to A.

The PIX does not allow ICMP traffic to come from the outside to the inside,
so to change that, you will need to open up for ICMP number 0 (echo-reply).

The command for that is:

        conduit permit icmp any any 0

This is a good way to do it, because then you allow outside devices to reply
to your request, but they are not allowed to do a PING themself. If you want
PING to work both ways, simply use this command:

        conduit permit icmp any any

Hth,

Ole

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-----Original Message-----
From: Justin C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 10:10 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Question on PIX 501


Ole,

Thanks for the reply.  I understand being busy.  I normally try to solve
these things all on my own, but I just don't have the available time.  I
spent six hours on it yesterday.

Justin


From: Ole Drews Jensen
To: 'Justin C'
Subject: RE: Question on PIX 501
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 08:08:30 -0600

I did receive the message - I do not know why groupstudy did not.

I appologize for not getting back with you yesterday, but I am so busy these
days, as there are many projects I have to finish.

I will see if I can find a couple of minutes to read your entire e-mail from
yesterday, and help you out.

Try the [EMAIL PROTECTED] again.

Ole

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-----Original Message-----
From: Justin C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 8:14 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Question on PIX 501


Ole,

I apologize in advance for yet another direct message.  I am just wondering
if you did get the message regarding the Pix 501 as groupstudy has not.

I dislike having to message direct, but I am really scratching my head over
this, so anything help you can offer would be greatly appreciated.  In a
nutshell, have you worked with a 501.  If so, was it plug and play or did
you have to perform additional configurations to get it to work.

My thanks in advance for your time.

Justin Cluer

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