>I don't know, last time someone made a pitch like that. I found out they
>got paid for doing work for the site. My employer gives me 3500 a year
>for educational stuff, and that money is going for a Masters degree.


Well, as someone who does get compensated by Certzone and other 
organizations, I make a point to give the appropriate disclaimers 
when I make a post relating to product quality.  I certainly 
encourage anyone who does get compensation from Certzone, Gettlabs, 
etc., never to hide that--I think honesty is the best long-term 
policy.  Generally, when I post to the list, I cite freely available 
information.

To the best of my knowledge, Robert has never done work for us. I 
suppose it's possible he might have been a reviewer at some time, but 
I'm usually aware of who they are.

I agree that pitches are made by people that are affiliated with 
education vendors but don't disclose that affiliation. I don't like 
it myself.  But may I suggest it's more appropriate to _ask_ if 
someone has an affiliation than offer an innuendo that they might be 
shilling?

As to the value of white papers -- of course different people learn 
in different ways. They might or might not be of use to you.  One of 
the reasons Certzone makes each of its White Papers available free 
for one month (not the questions or labs), so people can make an 
intelligent decision if they are or are not useful.

Oh  -- both David Wolsefer and Galina Pildush are CCIE's, and have 
been compensated by Certzone. Since David's posting was in support of 
an April Fool's joke, perhaps the limits were stretched in good fun.

>
>
>
>All I need is an internet terminal and some free time to get those
>things you mentioned :-) Anyway, to each his own....
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Robert Fowler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 3:00 PM
>To: Brian Zeitz; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: MPLS White Paper Announcement [7:40035]
>
>
>
>Actually, the site provides much more than that. I subscribed over a
>month ago and it is full of information that is compiled so that it is
>easy to read etc. I have the PowerPoint slides also, but I've found the
>diagrams, tests etc are much more valuable and make things easier to
>learn. I think it's worth every dollar my employer spent. :)
>
>Robert
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Brian Zeitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 2:40 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: MPLS White Paper Announcement [7:40035]
>
>Figure out the font then? It is probably Wingdings, ha ha. I could
>figure this out, but I don't put much stock in this site. People really
>pay money for white papers? The jokes on the people that send money to
>that site to subscribe! I have a bunch of MPLS stuff from Cisco like
>Documents, Powerpoint slides etc. Maybe they encrypted it in DES? Ha ha.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 12:41 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: MPLS White Paper Announcement [7:40035]
>
>This isn't in Russian, it's a transliteration of English
>using Cyrillic characters.  April Fool.
>
>Someone's cute idea - bet the English character version
>is going to cost.

The English-0nly version will be up tomorrow and free for a month. I 
can't read the current copy myself--I happen to know Galina wrote it 
in Russian, and it may contain a translation of some stuff of mine.

>Fred.
>>  Yea.. I am sure it is great.. if you are fluent in Russian....
>>
>>  Tim
>>  CCIE 9015
>>
>>  -----Original Message-----
>>  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>
>>  David Wolsefer
>>  Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 10:21 AM
>>  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>  Subject: MPLS White Paper Announcement [7:40035]
>>
>>
>>  Galina Pildush is publishing an MPLS white paper today on
>>  www.certificationzone.com. You better hurry though because it will
>only be
>>  available free for today only. This should be an excellent source for
>those
>>  studying for the C&S exam. As a CCIE and JNCIE, Galina knows MPLS
>well.
>>
>>  Regards,
>>
>  > David Wolsefer

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