Were you teaching IS-IS before you had to get that angioplasty? Argh. I can attest to the fact that Howard was instrumental in shaping up a number of Cisco courses.
I didn't realize that CID was originally for SEs. That explains a lot. The original author was Geoff Haviland. I remember his name because of the famous china of the same name. (may be a girl thing. ;-) Priscilla At 09:09 PM 4/19/02, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote: >Let me respond only to one specific point. > >At 7:54 PM -0400 4/19/02, Kevin Cullimore wrote: > > > > > >I'm also led to believe that the early CCSI exams were designed to weed out > >mere CCIEs (please, somebody, correct me if I'm wrong on that [or any other] > >account). > > > >There were no CCSI exams until 1995 or so. I was certified in 1993, >when there were also no training partners -- I delivered courses as a >subcontractor to Cisco. Many, if not most, Cisco courses were >delivered by Cisco employee CCSIs. Let me describe the process and >see if you'd call it an exam. > >It's been a while, but the process started with my company proposing >me and sending a resume and samples of my work. I was then phone >interviewed by several Cisco people, then invited out to the training >center (then in Mountain View). > >Once I got there, I again was interviewed by multiple instructors. I >then took what was then the Router Software Configuration course as a >student. I then spent a week or two going over my notes, practicing >on equipment, etc., and then took the course again, this time >focusing on how the instructor delivered it. In all of these cases, >I was frequently called on to work with students on real-world >designs. > >There were only two Cisco courses at the time, Router Software and >Router Hardware, so you got people of all levels. > >Next, I moved to team teaching parts of the courses with a Cisco >instructor, and often several proctors. I think it was my second >teaching of the week-long course when my lead proctor stopped me at a >break, chewed me out for being fogged, and told me he didn't want me >to teach for the rest of the week -- just listen. > >It was with some perverse pleasure that I called him from the >intensive care unit the next day -- apparently, my increasing fog was >due to decreasing heart function. While I was in the hospital for an >angioplasty only for a couple of days, I was forbidden to fly for >several weeks, and, when I could walk comfortably, went daily to >Cisco to work with the staff. As we got to know one another, they >learned that while the typical Cisco instructor of the time had a >background in field engineering, mine was much more in protocol >development. When I first stood up before a class again, I actually >revised the unit on OSI protocols, since some of the courseware was >misleading or wrong -- I had spent six years working full-time on OSI >protocol development and testing. I spent productive time with >several course developers, going through courseware and giving >detailed technical critiques. I was also asked into some customer >meetings to advise on network design. > >Eventually, my health was back up to team teaching, and then I taught >a full class with a proctor observing but not participating. At that >point, I was given a provisional certification, which was not made >permanent until Cisco had done detailed monitoring of my student >reviews for 3 months, and I had had a number of Cisco field office >employees attend my classes, critique them, and work with customers. > >This experience was also punctuated by little problems like having >the teaching lab delivered to you after a forklift had speared >through the shipping crate. I developed a great deal of respect for >the ruggedness of 4000 series routers, especially after initial >teaching on MGS and AGS routers (IOS 9.0, incidentally). In my >second class, I had to open up a failing MGS and replace the >processor, with only directions over the phone. It was fairly >routine to have to open xGS routers and troubleshoot loose ribbon >cables between the I/O boards and the actual interfaces -- they >didn't use the modern adapter cables, which vastly improved >reliability. > >Subsequently, I was involved in reviewing several courses in draft, >attending the beta teach, and doing some course development for >things like Cisco University. I was in the first group of non-Cisco >people to teach CID, which had been a course for SEs only and >considerably different from the present course. Trying to think of >the author's name...Geoff something. Priscilla wrote the next version >(OK, what was Geoff's last name)? The next version was subcontracted >to my company, with Kip Peterson as the lead author but with several >contributions from me. > >So was there an exam? You decide. ________________________ Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=42049&t=42045 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
