If you go straight AUX-to-AUX you really don't have DDR. All you have is interface async1, a dialer profile and a always-on interface you can route over. Why not pick yourself up a pots simulator such as Teletone TLS-4 and have true DDR.
Atleast, that's what I did at home and it works great. The box I bought (tls-4) has 4 ports on it and I can have different routers calling each other depending on my scenario. Lemme know if you need more information on this. Btw, check out ebay for prices. Tim -----Original Message----- From: Johnny Peterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 11:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCIE #9240 -Back OT To get this thread back on topic. I have a question. When connecting 2 routers via their respective AUX ports to practice DDR, what cable is used? Is it a rollover cable? Best Regards, Johnny Peterson -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sanjay Prajapati Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 9:49 PM To: 'Zhang, Stan'; 'Church, Chuck ' Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCIE #9240 - Pretty OT at this point. AYE!! -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Zhang, Stan Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 7:16 PM To: 'Church, Chuck ' Cc: ''[EMAIL PROTECTED]' ' Subject: RE: CCIE #9240 - Pretty OT at this point. Chuck is our man!! Let kill the thread. All those agree please reply to this thread and say "AYE". SZ -----Original Message----- From: Church, Chuck Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Sent: 4/30/02 9:55 PM Subject: CCIE #9240 - Pretty OT at this point. Can't we all just get along? We've gone through this thread before. The CCIE lab has definitely changed over the last 5 years, but I don't think anyone can make a call as to when it was most difficult. In the old days, it was more of a research project. There was no information on it. Just lots of rumors. As info and study guides/practice labs came out, Cisco made it tougher by cramming more in, making time a bigger issue. Does that make one harder than the other? The passing rate is still in the 10-15% range, so I think it's still adequately difficult. But then again, who cares? With the dollars and responsibility involved in hiring a network engineer, you can bet a company will look hard at one's resume, and ask several hours of tough questions. Those who don't have what it takes either won't be hired, or will be the first to be let go. Just don't ever stop learning, that's what I say. Chuck Church CCIE #8776, MCNE, MCSE Sr. Network Engineer US Tennis Association 70 W. Red Oak Lane White Plains, NY 10604 914-696-7199 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mingzhou Nie Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 7:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Sean Wu; 'Peter Rosenthal'; thomas larus; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE #9240 You are wrong, Dave. When I say "won't ever thing earlier CCIEs are better technically", I have no intention to disdain old takers, I simply counter Sean's point that older CCIEs are more admirable in terms of indepent studying. Is a CCIE 9200 superior to CCIE20000? No way. Just because there's more ways to discuss and practice doesn't challenge a CCIE's accountibilty. I'm certainly ignorant at some point because I'm not a perfect man. However, being an OLDER CCIE, you simply take my words personal and distorted my original thought. You are ignorant in my opinion, thought you are a CCIE. Don't take it personal, Dave. You are welcome to debate with me. Let's take if offline if you will. --- MADMAN wrote: > > I thought better for a moment than to even respond to your email > but I > think you may be missing a clue. > > I'm one of the 1996 test takers. Yes you are correct, there was no > voice, QOS, switches nor several of the knobs available now. In 5 > years > from now there will be new technologies that people will be learning, > does this mean people who are currently passing will be the > equivalent > to your view of the "1996/97" CCIE's? > > What else has changed Mingzhou? There was no Cisco press, CCNA, > CCNP, > CCXX..., no bootcamps, no world wide mail lists brimming with NDA > info, > no virtual labs etc. You learned by working on networks and studing > based on the little info available concerning the lab and when you > felt > up to it you went to San Jose. > > So do you suppose those who took the test then fell off the face of > the earth or what?? Who do think helped test, implement, > troubleshoot, > teach etc. the new technologies that are currently being tested??? > > BTW, I don't think most of the "old" CCIE's give a damn what you > think > of us technically anyway but thanks for sharing your ignorance. > > Dave > > > Mingzhou Nie wrote: > > > > I don't agree, Sean. Do you know what had been tested in 1996/7. > > There's no voice, not Qos, no new techs that has since been added. > I > > won't ever thing earlier CCIEs are better technically. > > > > --- Sean Wu wrote: > > > Peter, I agree with you in that experience is important to this > > > field, > > > and most network managers tend to think in the same way. But what > > > about > > > the quality of experience, in my mind, 2 years' experience with > > > intensive cisco hands-on is much more valuable than 5 years' > first > > > level > > > network support. > > > > > David Madland > Sr. Network Engineer > CCIE# 2016 > Qwest Communications Int. Inc. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 612-664-3367 > > "Emotion should reflect reason not guide it" ===== - | | :|||: :|||: :|||||||: :|||||||: .:|||||||||||:.:|||||||||||:. C i s c o S y s t e m s www.cisco.com/tac Empowering the Internet Generation __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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