That's a good one John. This has got to be one of the funniest posts I've ever seen. I'm trying to figure out if you're serious or just trolling.
Some of the best networkers I know have no certifications and never will cause they believe that it's all marketing hype and driven by companies looking to profit off the certification craze, which is probably not far from the truth. How many hundreds of millions have been made by certification testing and training companies each year? I bet the number might shock us all. Could you please explain why a CCIE's answer should never be questioned and a non-CCIE answer should never be trusted? Doesn't a little thing called experience come into play? I'd have to say that your impression "to be a guru, you have to be a CCIE" is ludicrous. I know several guru's with no certs. Also, does that work in reverse? To be a CCIE, you have to be a guru? I would say not anymore. What about the brain dump, NDA violating, lab rat, CCIE's that are minted every day lately? Believe me you wouldn't want to listen to a word they say about anything network related. I met one CCIE that was so lame he didn't even deserve to be an MCSE. He had never touched a production router and had never seen a datacenter. I also understand there is a certain web site in China that is selling actual CCIE lab exams (or so they claim... but I wouldn't doubt it for a second). So I guess we'll have to say... sorry Priscilla Oppenheimer... no more posts from you... unless you get your number or if you have a question for one of us CCIE's (Sorry to single you out Priscilla but you were the first non-CCIE guru that came to my feable mind) ;-) So I guess I have to ask one more time... were you serious??? And BTW, yes I have my number so you can trust my opinions ;-) Congrats on the new addition to the family BTW! JR -- Johnny Routin The "Routin" One ""John Neiberger"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I've been noticing a growing trend on the list for several months now > and I'm hoping to start some discussion and perhaps alleviate this > particular issue. > > As everyone knows we have a fair number of true, guru-level experts > that participate in the list and provide a wealth of excellent > networking knowledge. However, very often this isn't Cisco-specific and > as such is not of much value and it really seems to irritate other > members of the list who understand that the only topics worth studying > are Cisco-related. > > To make matters even worse, many of these so-called experts aren't even > Cisco certified!! I was under the impression that to be a true expert > one must have attained the CCIE certification, or at least CCNP with > multiple specializations. How can we trust your advice if you we don't > see those initials in your email sigs?? > > Participation on the list by these sorts of experts, regardless of > there vast experience and knowledge, causes excessive distress to > certain list members. In order to show more tolerance toward the easily > annoyed, perhaps we should consider only allowing CCIEs to answer posts. > I'm sure others would agree that this would solve this problem. We > must find a way to prune the non-certified from our ranks. > > Regards, > > John advice unless you've passed some sort of parenting certification. > Thanks.) Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=43002&t=42996 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
