nrf, reading all your long, sarcastic, and unreasonable comments, mostly
having a negative impact on hte Groupstudy, are you actually a CCIE?

You seem very jealous about ppl having a CCIE certifications, or at least
demoralizing ppl not to take CCIE if not 50 years old with rich networking
experience.


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> I want to write about all the posts that use the words "real" CCIE.  I
hope
> we can beat this into the ground and never speak of it again.
>
>
> 1.) I think people should spend more time on technical issues and career
> opportunities and less on putting people into categories.  "Yes, I have
less
> Cisco experience than most people on this list, oh my god crucify me now!"
>
> Lesson:   Everyone starts knowing nothing.
>
>
> 2.) I have been working on Cisco certifications since 1999 and I
frequently
> spend a month studying for a single test, while it took me a month to get
my
> MCSE and a month for my CNE.  I also only spent about $1,000 on those
> certifications and at least 8k on Cisco study materials.  I also read alot
> about how the CCIE is devalued, because of the new one day format.  You
have
> less time and cover the same material that sounds harder to me.
>
> Lesson: It isn't easy and it isn't cheap.
>
>
> 3.) Jobs only want someone with experience, but how do you get it?  I
didn't
> get lucky enough to end up in a job where I got Cisco experience early in
my
> career.
>
> Lesson:  No matter how smart you are, luck had something to do with your
> success today.
>
>
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