Hmmm....For the 7 hop from edge thing, I stand corrected. Now that you
mention "radius vs. diameter", I see what you mean. My thinking was that the
diameter was calculated with the root at the center (3 switches to either
side for 7 switches total). The problem with that is that it doesn't
necessarily have to be three per side, it could be 6 on one and none on the
other :( Just poor analysis on my part.

As for the 5-4-3 rule, I am going to disagree on a few counts. Here's how I
remember it (from an admittedly long time ago):

First, the slot time (64 byte time) isn't much of an issue unless running at
100Mbps or faster, and isn't an issue at all running full duplex. As I
remember it, the problem with the slot time is that at 100Mbps, the slot
time drops to something like 5.12 ms, which necessarily reduces the repeated
network's diameter, as if a packet collides after the slot time it becomes a
late collision, and the original host may not properly detect the collision.
I seem to remember that there always being a recommendation, however, not to
repeat the packet more than 5 times due to S/N Ratio problems creeping in
after amplification.

As for the switch vs. hub thing, I seem to remember based on the S/N thing
that anything that amplified the original signal caused this problem. I also
remember the distinction that under normal circumstances, the switch does
not modify the packet in any way (L3/4 switches and trunking excluded).
However, thinking about it, based solely on the switching mode, it seems
that all switches (and even a lot of hubs now) buffer the packet in RAM and
then forward it, which means, as someone stated, that the packet is "rebuilt".

So, I agree with most of what you have said after all, with the exception of
the S/N ratio having nothing to do with it. I do remember reading that the
S/N ratio degradation was an issue after many amplifications of the original
signal.

As for me drinking by the pool, no, I am out of town at present, and just
rattled off the reply. As I hope I have shown, I did have reasons for what I
said, just perhaps the weren't thought out well enough.

Brian Hill
CCNP, CCDP, MCSE 2000 (Charter Member),MCSE+I (NT4.0), 
MCSA (Charter Member), MCP+I, MCP(21), Inet+, Net+, A+
Lead Technology Architect, TechTrain
Author: Cisco, The Complete Reference
http://www.alfageek.com


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