""Thompson Alton"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Do you remember Mainframe systems??? Do you remember LU and PU and logic > controllers?? Do they all work the same as IP networks or VOIP and IP > telephony networks? > Do you know all the traffic in your data network??? You seem to be bitter > about something. Do you want someone with 20 years experience Appling a > network change without testing out first in a lab environment???
But look at it the other way. Do you want some new guy fresh off the street (or fresh off his cert) but who has no experience fiddling around on a mission-critical part of your network? I didn't think so. > Last but > certainly not least, how many mainframe guys know IP networking. You provide > me a list.Answer is very few. Many PBX or Telecomm Engineer knows VOIP or IP > Telephony?? Answer is very few. Giving me dates when things start is like > tell me that we still need to go print a circuit board for two days and use > tubes, diodes, and transistors, instead a sing microprocessor. On the other hand, who's more likely to show up to work late? Or show up drunk or high? Or get into a fight with his coworkers? Or surf porn in front of female coworkers? The guy who's been in the working world for 25 years or a new kid? Experience is not just about knowing which command does what. It's also about general work attitudes and maturity. > > Finally, There are many people with 20 years of experience who feel that > they don't need to learn new technologies and therefore still trying fight > progress. There are also a whole lot of new guys who feel they don't need to learn new technologies too. They get their nice shiny CCxx or whatever and they feel that they that's the end of the road. Pride and ignorance exist in both camps. But pride and ignorance generally exists less with the experienced guys because of "the laws of evolution". If you were always proud and ignorant and you felt you never had to learn new things, chances are you wouldn't have survived for very long in the industry anyway, so how exactly did you manage to rack up all that experience? That's not to say that there are no experienced guys who are proud and ignorant, but it's just less likely. >We do not know every thing out there but at least we can try to be > knowledge as possible. > > You need to be more appreciative of people who want to be the best. Be > weather it be CCIE or Cissp. They have to study just like any other > professional. If my doctor doesn't put in at least 100 hours of training and > giving me a diagnostic, I will sue his pants off. Aw come on now. You might have a young doc fresh out of med school who's just been studying 100 hours a week. On the other hand, you might have an old-doc who's still studying.working for 100 hours a week. So who's likely to be the better doc? Or, let me put it to you more bluntly - if you need life-saving surgery, who do you want operating on you - the guy straight out of med school or the guy who's been around for decades? Exactly. > > Stop being an idiot Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=44684&t=44653 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
