I'd agree, especially if you've got a study buddy to split the cost with...
On the other hand, the prices I found were from e-bay - so provided Cisco doesn't drop ISDN from the lab, you can always resell the unit once you're done and the only thing you're out is the delta in the prices and any interest you might have lost by not investing in Enron stock... Ummm, forget that last part... :) --- Dennis -----Original Message----- From: Treptow, Georg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 4:58 PM To: 'Dennis Laganiere'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: ISDN BRI Simulator Comparison - way to expensive!! For that price you might as well order 2 ISDN lines from your local telco. That should only cost you about $80.00 a month as you don't need to get ISP service with it. You would be able to use those for 17 months until coming up even. Georg Treptow -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Laganiere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 6:34 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: ISDN BRI Simulator Comparison Earlier today I proposed putting together some comparative information on the various ISDN Simulators available. Since the question "which simulator do I buy?" comes up regularly on the list, I though a cooperative effort to develop an answer would be an interesting exercise for the group. Just to start the conversation, here's a review of the two that I have in my home pod... Arca Emutel Lite Recent e-bay sales: $1,250 - $1,400 Features: * 2 port BRI * Switch types supported: NAT-1, DMS100 and 5ESS Default settings (just because I think its useful): Port B-channel DN SPID 1 1 384000 3840000001 1 2 384010 3840000002 2 1 384020 3840200001 2 2 384030 3840200002 The default ISDN switch-type is "basic-dms100" Pro: * Been using it for a year without a problem * Built-in battery backup means you can use it without AC power for a quick demonstration * Supports either "S" (4-wire) or "U" (2-wire) interfaces (selected through software) * Simple console-like configuration Con: * Since I'm using 2503's, it requires 2 x NT1 (approx $30 each on ebay) * Power supply is an external brick. Minor thing, but kind of annoying. Teltone ILS-B-01 ISDN Demonstrator Recent e-bay sales: $1,225 - $1,599 (New from the manufacture, $1,855.00) Features: * 2 port BRI * Switch types supported: NAT-1, AT&T Custom Default settings (just because I think its useful): Port B-channel DN SPID 1 1 835-8661 0835866101 1 2 835-8663 0835866301 2 1 835-8662 0835866201 2 2 835-8664 0835866401 The default ISDN switch-type is "basic-nil" Pro: * Built in power supply. * Windows-based configuration (I haven't tried it yet, but the book makes it look easy) Con: * Since I'm using 2503's, it requires 2 x NT1 (approx $30 each on ebay) * Only has "U" Interfaces I look forward to seeing what other people have used... Thanks... --- Dennis -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Laganiere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 2:36 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ISDN BRI Simulator Comparison This brings to mind an interesting side-project, if anybody has the time and inclination to help out. I've not seen a comprehensive comparison between the various simulators that are available, factoring in features and approximate cost. Myself personality, I've got an Emutel Lite at home that I've had a for while, and I just picked up a Teltone ISDN Demonstrator that I'm going to start playing with this weekend. I could probably put together a quick write up on those if it were a conversation that other people would like to contribute too. Anybody what to play? Let me know... --- Dennis From: Dennis Laganiere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 1:48 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ISDN BRI Simulator Ummmmm... I'll pay $125... Next bidder... :) I don't believe you'll find too many in this range, but I'd love to learn that I'm wrong... Thanks... --- Dennis -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 1:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ISDN BRI Simulator I am looking for a 2 port ISDN BRI Simulator for under $100. Does anyone know where I can get one? 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