I stand corrected on the shunning part (thanks Glenn).  You can use shun
with 6.1, but I am not sure about the details for allowing this to happen
dynamically using CSPM.  I hesitate to ever implement dynamic shunning as a
savvy attacker can use that to shun valid sources as a form of DoS.


""John Kaberna""  wrote in message
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> PIX's and routers capable of running IDS run a very limited version of
IDS.
> I believe they only catch 59 signatures which isn't very much.  It's not
bad
> for a small company that has a PIX that would like to start down the path
of
> having a true IDS some day.
>
> I'm not sure what you mean about Snort being recognized by the PIX.  I
would
> guess that you mean shunning which the PIX does not support regardless of
> whether you use Snort or a Cisco IDS solution.  Only the routers support
> shunning.
>
> I personally use Snort for my small-medium clients since it's free, has a
> large install base, and can run on multiple platforms.  If I have a client
> that is an all Windows shop I can put in on Win2k.  If they are pro-Unix,
I
> can put it on Linux or even Solaris.  There is a lot more flexibility than
> some of the other IDS solutions for a lot less money.
>
> I doubt that I would desire an MS solution even if they did come out with
> one.  I don't trust Bill when it comes to security.
>
>
> ""Brian Zeitz""  wrote in message
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> > I read that the 2600 router (or definitely higher model routers) have
> > IDS built in, but if you bought any Pix Firewall it wouldn't have IDS.
> > Am I mistaken on this? So the most people who want IDS who cannot afford
> > / justify (just yet) and IDS box are using Snort? I have a pix 515UR,
> > and if I read correctly, it has the capabilities to interface to an IDS
> > box, but it is not an IDS box itself. Also, if I use Snort as an IDS,
> > will the pix be able to recognize it? Maybe Microsoft will come out with
> > a tool of this nature, which is free (not really free, but included with
> > OS) like some of the built in components in 2000.
> >
> >
> >
> > If I have some misinformation here, I have not read my 1000 page IDS
> > book as of yet, but I am working on MCNS.
> >
> >
> >
> > I found a document that will allow me to install Snort on Windows 2000,
> > that is my current plan for implementing IDS. Can anyone give me the
> > pros and cons of Snort Vs. Cisco IDS system? What other alternatives
> > should I be looking at. My company does not really need an IDS as of
> > yet, but I am doing this just for fun and for learning about
> > security/IDS.
> >
> >
> >
> > Hope my pro-Microsoft attitude is OK in the group. I like working on
> > routers and security, and don't spend a lot of time tweeking around with
> > Operating Systems.




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